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I have a nice patch of grass in my back yard I want to convert to garden.
What are some good ways to get rid of the grass - kill it, turn it under,
etc. ?

Thanks to all that replied, I've been out of town and have not had a chance
to respond sooner.

No bermuda (!!). I lived in Vegas for 15 years, and there is no way to win
the war against bermuda. Up here (near Portland OR), there is no bermuda
type grasses.

It's a fairly large plot, probably 2000 square feet or so, depending on how
much my wife wants for her koi pond area . I'm not excited about shaving
the top layer off.

Black plastic - problem - there is no sunshine this time of year, it doesn't
stop raining long enough for the ground to dry.

I have tons of cardboard boxes, having just moved - maybe using cardboard to
kill it is my best bet? And then use a good gas tiller to chop up the
remains?