Hi Pat :-) I didn't know you were out there. Hello - Where are you from? I
live in NJ. Just getting the pond going this year. Do you have pics? I'll
add my initials to my post. :-)

thanks
Pat B - NJ



"Pat" wrote in message
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My name is pat, too.

"Pat" wrote in message
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Jan - I didn't write that. I have no idea how that got my name on it.
Weird... I don't have bottom drains. Never heard of them till now, but
I
won't be
messing with my liner. I will get a fine net to scoop the bottom layer.
Thanks
Pat

You did install bottom drains, or you're asking if you should? A pond
that
has a 12 foot diameter, a bottom drain would sure make things easier.
Check
out my website on how to go over the side using a tetra bell vacuum
bottom
drain, so you can retrofit a pre-existing pond. (Click on My Filter).
For
heavier stuff, that the koi don't get moved down to the location of the
bottom drain, I use my shop vac. ~ jan

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"~ janj" wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:17:45 -0800, "Pat"
wrote:

How do you all clean up the sediments at the bottom of your ponds.
My pond is about 12 foot diameter and 3 feet deep at the center.
Thanks
I install bottom drains.