"Sacha" wrote in message
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George.com wrote:
"Mike" wrote in message
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rob don't worry. The Earth has been here for 36,000,000,000 years give
or
take a year or two and man has only been here the thickness of a coat
of
paint. Nothing, repeat nothing man can do will destroy this earth,
spoilt
it
yes, but like all wounds, it will heal.

Come back in 36 thousand million years and there will be no sign of
man's
short inhabitance and everything will be OK

:-))
Mike

a point of clarification required to my post Mike. Exactly, the earth
will
exist in some way beyond our existence. My angst is us living within its
carrying capacity as opposed to forcing an ecological melt down that all
but
sends us back to the stone age, thereby giving the earth time and space
to
recover from our stupidity. The issue of us pulling back before we do
root
our future existence is the focus of my post.

I'm very sympathetic to your pov and I think that people are becoming
more and more aware of the need to respect the world in which we live
AND its resources. However, I think too, that to all too many such
thinking is a luxury because poverty does not tend to enable grand
gestures. Nor of course, does greed. I don't begin to have any
answers to this but when you have people destroyng rain forest so that
they can have land to farm on or timber to sell and at the other end of
the scale, a country like USA refusing to sign up to the Kyoto treaty,
there's still one helluva struggle going on. Nonetheless, I'm an
optimist and I think people in the 'enlightened' world are beginning to
get there.

too slow, way to slow at present rates I believe to turn round the mess we
have made. Sure, people are becoming aware and efforts are being made to
clean up some of the damage we have done but that doesn't counter balance
the continuing degredation going on around us all. I am more aware than many
and I am changing basic things but my lifestyle is masisvely unsustainable.
The lack of significant change frustrates the hell out of me. My wife brings
back fking plastic bags from the super market by the truck load and doesn't
even think about it despite all the times I tell her not to. Its ingrained
in collective psyches. It makes me want to throw a brick through someones
window.

rob