"michael adams" wrote in message
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"Rupert (W.Yorkshire)" wrote in message
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The 18 cottages on this small dirt track manage to produce a whole
3
bags
of
garden waste material which is collected every two weeks for the
Council
to
recycle. With the exception of myself no one composts but all the
houses
have gardens.
Exploring the contents of these bags with a view to using it on my
own
compost heap I came across :- Plastic plant pots and labels
reusable
assorted cans
easily resmelted
plastic bottles,
recyclable
cat litter(complete with turds),
compostable as tree mulch
milk bottles,
reusable once sterilised

some people remain as thick as the day god made them.

rob

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They're not thick.

They just happen to have different priorities in life.

Maybe they don't rate being smug and sanctimonious as highly
as some other people.

michael adams

maybe just lazy Michael. If I am smug and sanctimonious because
I make an effort then so be it, something I can live with.

There happens to be a big difference between simply making an effort
yourself, and using that as a pretext to look down on other people
who may happen to think differently to the way you do.

however in using the term sanctimonious you need to be careful, that in
accusing me of feigning righteousness or being hypocritically pious, you
assume I do not practise what I preach. Whereas, if I actually am anally
retentive toward recycling then there is nothing hypocritical or false. If I
am smug because I make an effort then feel free to call me a smug git or an
enviro arsehole but there is nothing false or hypocritical. If I went around
castigating people for driving their cars, and then did exactly the same as
they did, that would be hypocritical.

As for people thinking differently, chucking waste in a hole in the ground
is a good thing? There are anti-recyclers who base their lack of recycling
on sound logic and reason? Or do they do so simply because they can't be
bothered?

There are arguments around the environmental damage done in collecting
recyclable waste vs the damage done by land filling the waste. Different
studies, different methods of calculation, determine which side of the
ledger is 'greenest'. On another track, metal for example, these items are
increasingly becoming sought after on a global scale, much to do with
insatiable building demand in China. We can then bury re0usable metals or we
can gather up and resmelt them. If there is a demand for products, why bury
them?

I wonder which of those arguments people who don't recycle use.

If facilities are available
there is no excuse for doing the simple things. 'Can't be bothered' is
no
answer, just an excuse. As for priorities, where recycling facilities
are
available dumping it all in a landfill doesn't sound like priorities to
me,
just laziness or ignorance. Feel free to prove me wrong.

rob

The world is full of people, performing selfless and often unpleasant
tasks on a daily basis, for the benefit of society and the community
as a whole, often with very little expectation of recognition
or reward, who feel no need to preach, or look down their noses
at anyone.

indeed, but when I go swimming in a rip the lifeguard would most likely tell
me to stop being a stupid ******* and go back to shore. Likewise, the
ambulance officer would tell me to stop being a moron if they knew I was
about to drink and drive. If my actions were going to cause a harm to me or
others, or result in some cost further down the track society will have to
pick up as a result of my lack of effort, would you not expect these people
you mention above to say something?

Like I said however, where facilities exist, what excuse is there. Rupert
said:

"The 18 cottages on this small dirt track manage to produce a whole 3 bags
of garden waste material which is collected every two weeks for the Council
to recycle."

If it is GARDEN WASTE material that is collected to recycle, why put cans,
bottles, chip packets etc in it. If these things are to be landfilled, put
them in the bin. The issue is not just a lack of recycling, it is also one
of contaminating recyclable products.

I don't recycle because I am not aware of it is one thing, I will chuck any
old theing any old where smacks of laziness does it not?

rob