"Malcolm Manners" wrote in message
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Ron Hardin wrote:

A couple mystery plants today on the bike ride

1. some rose http://home.att.net/~rhhardin5/w55.jpg
(which apparently is not multiflora rose because it doesn't
look like this http://home.att.net/~rhhardin5/w60.jpg )

by a field and river.

Ron,
Your "rose"is in the genus Rubus, not Rosa. It's a blackberry or
dewberry. Not sure of the exact species.

But of course Rubus is indeed a member of the rose family,
and not too very distant from Rosa. It's to his credit
that he recognized the clear 'family resemblance'.

2. unknown flower with unusual leaf
http://home.att.net/~rhhardin5/w59.jpg flower
http://home.att.net/~rhhardin5/w59a.jpg leaf

I found some blue and some white, several miles apart.

It looks to be a species of Phacelia, not sure which
[there are many, but most won't look much like yours].
Compa

http://www.missouriplants.com/Blueal...ides_page.html
http://dcdj.ifrance.com/dcdj/fonds_ecrans/phacelia.jpg
http://www.ownbyphotography.com/newpage61.htm

cheers