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Old 09-06-2006, 06:13 PM posted to rec.ponds
Galen Hekhuis
 
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On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 16:19:12 GMT, (Roy) wrote:


Private waters asshole, and allprivate waters are those that are not
able to flow into naturally occuring streams and rivers.......UNLESS a
proper baricade is installed.............look it up, its there, it
even covers flood plains where one body of water does not connect to
another unless a flood occurs.........If it was illegal as yu say,
then thoe folks raising lkoi and goldk fishin the Pea river area would
be out fo business, as they utilized waters from the pea ribver for
their fish farms............and koi and gf are not native of
Alabama......
Same thing for the Tilapia farmers, off Pintlala creek, and the
ALABAMA river...those fish sure are not native either.....Private
constructed ponds on your own property yoou can put what you want in
them, and a dug pond with a dirt/clay bottom is still classed as a
natural pond here......so donpt say its against the l aw untilyou know
what the **** yur talking about. Besides perhaps you need to worry
about your area and not alabama since you do not live here anyhow....


Like I said, you may be entirely correct regarding private waters. But it
is illegal in public waters "... without the written permission of a
designated employee of the Department of Conservation and Natural Resources
authorized by the Director of the Division of Wildlife and Freshwater
Fisheries to issue such permit." I would imagine the examples you present
are also examples where a permit might be issued.

Alabama is sort of "my area." Granted, I don't live there, but I was up in
Huntsville last summer. The National Speleological Society held its
convention in Huntsville last year. They also held their convention in
Birmingham and Huntsville in 1967, and, while I did not attend that one, I
was in Huntsville that year too. Alabama is one of the TAG (Tennessee,
Alabama, Georgia) states that is home to some of the deepest caves in the
US. In 1967 Alabama was home to the deepest drop (Surprise Pit, 425') that
we knew of in the US. (It has since been replaced by Ellison's, in
Georgia.) I was born in Mississippi (you know, that state right next to
you that shoved your state out of first place to lead the nation in
illiteracy) and often crossed Alabama to visit friends and relatives.
Seems like for the past forty years I've been either traveling through or
to Alabama at a minimum of at least once a year, often quite a bit more.
Besides, most of the water in SE Alabama winds up flowing into Florida on
its way to the Gulf. I (and some others) tend to care a little about what
you all throw into your water.


On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 12:07:27 -0400, Galen Hekhuis
wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:29:20 GMT, (Roy) wrote:



Maybe in a crontolled co untry like Canada and a controlling state
like CAlifornia, things like this may be illegal , but its certianly
not the case all around the usa by any means.........a natural pond is
allowed fish or whatever speices you want to put in it in my area, as
long as approved guards . barriers are inplace. I love it when folks
do not know the ****ing answer and have tp imediately point out legakl
issues, when legal issues was not the original quesiton any
how...........typical crap from a bunch of ******s without a clue.

Uh, sort of. As far as private waters are concerned, Roy may indeed be
correct. However, as far as public waters go in Alabama, the statement is
quite wrong.

"It shall be unlawful to intentionally stock or release any fish, mussel,
snail, crayfish or their embryos including bait fish into the public waters
of Alabama under the jurisdiction of the Division of Wildlife and
Freshwater Fisheries as provided in Rule 220-2-.42 except those waters from
which it came without the written permission of a designated employee of
the Department of Conservation and Natural Resources authorized by the
Director of the Division of Wildlife and Freshwater Fisheries to issue such
permit. The provisions of this rule shall not apply to the incidental
release of bait into the water during the normal process of fishing.
http://www.outdooralabama.com/Fishin...-stockings.cfm

Where it is a bit unclear (to me, at least) is the case where private
waters (ponds, springs, creeks and the like) flow into public waters or are
in the drainage basins of public waters.

Legal issues may not have been in the original post, however, they should
never be ignored.


Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA
Hell hath no fury like a bird in the hand.