Mark wrote:

Thanks for reply.

1. #1 sounds like the OP has seen some air layering
1a. what is "OP"?

Original Poster.


1b. what is "air layering"

Creating a root system above the soil.


1c. Do you mean that I am "OP" and have seen some "air layering" that
looks like
procedure I have described in making the mash from the leaves?
Maybe I am an "OP", whatever it means (hope nothing bad). But I
definitely did not see "air layering". The reason I have come out with
this idea is very simple.
If you have a cut, before it heals there is some kind of liquid coming
to surface of the wound. Not only healing process needs it but I am
sure it is faster with it than without it.
If you use analogy more to the plant you would try to do same thing
with the plant.
When the wound on human body heals, even there is some foreign body
(e.g. splinter) in the wound, the juice will cover it and wound will
heal even there is a foreign body inside The wound. I would think that
something similar will happen with the plant and even better since the
plants are more primitive than animals the process of fusion must be
more successfull than with the species from animal kingdom.
So, this is where my idea comes from. Again, I am sure that somebody
who does grafting may see a lot of obstacles in this. This is Ok,
because I am almost sure that answer lies somewhere between gardening
and genetics. I am just trying to get information from people versed in
gardening, so when next time I will try this issue with people versed
in genetics I will be able to use terminology from gardening (e.g.
buds, "cambium", "OP", "air layering")

2. apple leaves do not contain undifferentiated (stem) cells. In
order to clone, these
are necessary. They can be found in buds and in cambium, but not
in leaves.
2a.undifferentiated (stem) cells) Can you, please in couple of
words explain to me what does it mean "undifferentiated (stem) cells)".
As apposed to "differentiated (stem) cells"? Can you give me example
from the plants of "differentiated stems cells"?
From animal world? Both. Differentiated" and "Undifferentiated"?

2b.are you saying that if I try buds or "cambium" I have better chance
than leaves?
2c. What is "cambium"?

Cambium is the layer just under the bark that transmits all the nutrients
for a plant. When you graft, there must be contact between the two
pieces of their cambium layers for the bond to take effect.



Thanks again.
Please, do not use my ignorance in the issues, that seems obvious to
you. against me.
I am just interested and want to try things without going to school.

OK, take some books out of the library. Surf the web for info.

I
do not have time for that and also think that simple things that you
do in garden do not need an university degree.

You don't need a university degree to read some basic books.
You can only graft plants of the same genetic species. Just accept
that for now, and stop trying to change scientific fact. This is not
the middle ages, so you can rely on this information. Look elsewhere
if you want to make scientific breakthroughs.


If it would, than how all our ancestors were able at the time when
there was not even "public school" concept domesticate animals and
breed plants that we use today.
And most of it has happened 10,000 to 20,000 years ago, when there was
not yet a written language around. Would not you agree that people that
did it did not have formal education in genetics or biology?
So, if they could why we can not? You would not think that "education
hurts" and we are less intelligent than they have been?

3tomatoes from 90 feet in the air
3.aFirst, why 90? why not 10-15? something that is easy to reach.
3.bSecond, who has said that you would have to climb to pick it up?
Maybe it is cheaper to shake the tree and catch it in soft net? An then
just carefully unfold the net and it all roll in in some kind of
bunker? Also only the tomatoes that are ripe enough to fall down from
shaking? Maybe depending on how strong is the shaking you can insure
only certain degree of ripeness? Would not you want to eat ripe
tomatoes instead of green being picked up? Maybe the tomato that grows
this way will be not only sweet but also hard enough? This way you do
not have to pick up individual tomatoes? Also this way they do not fall
on the soil and get spoiled before you pick them up.?

Certain edible crops are harvested by machines that shake them. Don't
think you are going to make any breakthroughs there.


3c.Who has said that the only right way to pick up tomatoes is to walk
between the rows and use your hands? I have been driving and have seen
some kind of combain that goes , cuts complete plant, chews it up and
spits out the leaves and branches on one side and tomato on the other.
Probably very expensive machine, but it does work, and can do in one
day what probably 200-300 people in a day do.

3d.Would not you think that instead of watering an acre, if you water
it from the top of the tree you would have to water just 100-200 square
feet?

4.90 feet in the air
4.aAt 90 feet I would plant something that when living and doing some
excretion, would benefit the tomatoes living at 10-15 feet. Maybe
something that excreets some additional food the tomatoes need. Or
water. Or fertilizer? I do not know.
First I want to grow the tomato at 10 feet. Then we can make next step
and think how to utilize space at 20 feet.

I think you need some practical experience, so go ahead and start gardening
and learn like most of us through experience what works and what doesn't.
Also, find some good reference material on gardening. You don't have to
go to college for that.

Sherwin