On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:47:48 -0800, Cass
wrote:

Dave, do you have any idea how helpful this is?!?! You'ved helped me so
much! I now see how large it gets (no large), how fine the canes are
(pretty fine) and how shrubby it is (pretty shrubby if not pruned
much). Do you prune that thing at all? And it is about 6 feet tall?

Actually, it's about 8 feet tall, with an "average" height of about 7
feet.

Thanks for the info about blackspot. Unless a rose has a real death
wish, blackspot isn't a huge problem here because most of our humidity
occurs while the rose is dormant.

What I know now is that I need to get more than one if I want to grow
it as a shrub. Looks like it would handle a nice 4 ft. fence well, but
my fences are 6 feet.

You can grow it as a singular shrub and it will probably end up being
taller than the fence. It just won't be 8 X 8 like mine is. It
probably won't be as "round". It grows very upright. If you decide to
plant a grouping, I'd plant it at least 10 feet from the fence.

Keep in mnd that this plant gets *no* shade whatsoever.

dave weil wrote:

On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 20:17:44 -0800, Cass
wrote:

dave weil wrote:

I looked at that picture of Aloha and it's a little misleading. Let me
remind you what Aloha looks like in my neck of the woods (actually, in
my front yard)...

As to the repeatability of the plant, it blooms very strongly from
early April (if I remember correctly) until the onset of Japanese
beetles the first week of July. Then, after they wipe out the blooms,
it blooms intermittently until late in the season (at least it does
here in Zone 6b). I wouldn't call it full flushes though, and I can't
say how much the Japanese beetles (which absolutely swarm this bush)
keep the plant from reblooming fully. The blooms are long-lasting on
the bush.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/ALOHA.jpg


Beautiful, Dave. I hope it looks like this some day! Now I'm psyched.

Also, I meant to say that this appears to me to be a triangular
grouping of three plants. If you are interested in trying to get the
same effect, it will help you to know that the girth at the base is
around 4 feet (the girth of the bush itself is about 8 feet), so plant
accordingly. I'd say that a spacing of at least 3 ft would be called
for.

Also, watch out for blackspot. It seems initially pretty resistant,
but don't let it get a foothold as it *will* nurture.

You'll love it almost as much for the lush, deep-green, glossy leaves
as for the large, plump, fragrant blooms. Also, it seems to go dormant
pretty well as it *will* get very bare in the winter. Here's a good
picture of that:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/DormantAloha.jpg

And here's a picture from 23 Sep of last year to show that it *does*
rebloom a bit (at least here in Zone 6b), and you can see that it's
already starting to go dormant (as well as having been hit a bit by
blackspot):

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/AlohalateSep.jpg

Here's one from mid-November:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ddweil2/AlohaNov.jpg