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Old 09-09-2006, 10:29 PM posted to alt.home.lawn.garden
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Whoops! That's more like $50 for 25 lbs., not 50lbs.

Here's the mix... though you're probably not interested with this new
valuation:

Lesco Premium Sun and Shade. 25lbs for $53.47 $2.14/lb). 99.9% weed free.
We'll call this
"Seed A."

Vigaro Sun-Shade Lawn Grass Seed Mix. $25.29 for 10lbs ($2.53/lb) . This is
"Seed B"

Seed A Seed B

Standard Kentucky Blue 31.74 24.83
Greenville Premum Rye 30.74
Brittany Chewing Fescue 17.79
Shademark Red Fescue 17.54
? Creeping Red Fescue 19.44
Barlennium Perenial Rye 18.79
Ambrose Chewing Fescue 17.43
Premier II Perenial Rye 9.89
Barclay Perenial Rye 7.69
Other crop seed 0.20

Will that mix of ferilizer be sufficient to take care of the entire area I
reseed or do I
have to come back in October or Novemeber to feed with more phosphorous?
"Steveo" wrote in message
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$1 a pound? What blend is it? I use 10-18-10 (or there abouts) for food on
new installs.

"jaygreg" wrote:
I left before your message arrived but as it turned out, I only got to
Home Depot. I though I'd run into a few grain elivators on the trip but I
didn't. Anyway, I did jot down the contents of several different bags I
thought might be appropriate. One is from Lesco; Premium Sun and Shade.
The other was Vigaro Sun-Shade Lawn Grass Seed Mix. Fifty pounds would
put me around $50. My experience with grass seed hasn't been something I
crow about. I love movin' earth with machines but I had plantin' and
growin' stuff. I'm sure I end up using a lot more seed than I have to.
I've got about 2000 sg ft. to reseed and I'm now thinking my best bet for
success would be to thatch it first (with a regular thatch machine, not
that "thaching" reseeder) to make sure I clear a good area under the top
carpet of grass so the seeds will take hold then either use that reseeder
to plant (would seem like that night be overkill though) or just a
spreader (probably would suffice) then cross my fingers. Comment? When
would I furtilize and with what combinbation?

"Steveo" wrote in message
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This is probably late for your shopping trip but at any rate, Jay. I
use Lesco 50/50 for most general sunlight applications. I pay less than
$2 a pound for it and it produces a steady product. (how much less than
$2 depends on how many pounds I buy)

I'm surprised you're in the market for that much seed. Your op sounded
like
a diy homeowner question. Should I tell you how much to charge for it
too?

"jaygreg" wrote:
Steveo... I live in NEO also. What mix lawn seed do you use for an
average residential preestablished lawn and how much do you pay? I've
been buying a mix from a local grain elivator in Seville that I
thought was fair. I'd have to look up my records for the exact price
but I remember at the time doing a comparison and they won the race.

I'm taking a drive into Holms county today and will probably come
across a few places to buy seed and fertilizer. I'd like to have a
benchmark. What ferilizer composition do you use on lawns now and
what's a fair price to pay?

"Steveo" wrote in message
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"jaygreg" wrote:
I'm considering thatching and resseding my lawn. A local equipment
rental showed me a machine by Classen
(http://littlewonder.com/turf-seeder-self-propelled.asp) called a
turf seeder (he called it an overseeder) that he thinks I should
use. When I saw the arrangement of the blades - considering the
machine drops seed first then lets the 24 or so blades roll over
them, my eyebrows rose; it seems to me a lot of seed will simply
fall on top of the grass and those blades will miss them. It
doesn't look like there's enough vibration to shake the seeds down
through the existing lawn and onto the furrows the blades create.

Is this a recommended way to get seed into a mature lawn that needs
to thicken to prevent unwanted weeds? Or should I rent a thatcher
then this machine to plant the seed when all the thatch is gone.
The guy at the rental agency says the machine will thach as well
but not as much as a stand-alone type.

Lesco sells a machine that operates on the same principal as the one
you're
looking at, and I've heard they work OK as long as you stay within
the limitations of a slice seeder. We have a couple of the Ryan
mataway's that drop the seed behind the slice and they work very
well on level soil away from tree roots. Be sure to criss cross your
job and go heavy with the seed. I run 10 lbs/1000sg ft here in Ohio.
(perfect time of the year to do that here right now)