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Old 20-09-2006, 12:22 PM posted to uk.environment.conservation,uk.rec.gardening
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Default A discussion nothing to do with gardening any more. Sorry.

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:59:48 +0100, "Uncle Marvo"
wrote:

Message for La Puce : don't read this, it's political :-)

In addition to what Uncle Marvo (me) wrote in ,
I, Marvo, add :

I was joking.

A terrorist has an aim. The aim is to get someone to listen to him, and he
usually terrorises because someone won't listen to him, and he is hopelessly
outnumbered, and quite possibly frightened. And he thinks he's right,
obviously. He probably isn't, but it makes no odds.

The terrorist in question (for the purposes of this 'ere discussion) was one
Osama Binliner, a product of a very rich family, who sadly thinks that his
Islam way (for he is a Muslim) is the only way. Mr Pres Bush is a proponent
of a system of capitalism, to such an extent that he makes things illegal
which are contrary to his view, partly (mainly?) owing to the fact that he
becomes Very Rich if the planet can consume just that little bit more oil,
and money is his raison d'etre. Our chap Blair is not like that, he is only
interested in Power and has gone quite mad, in a Maggie-stylee.

Given that the terrorist has an aim, it would be foolhardy of him not to let
on who he is (even if he is in hiding), because that would defeat his
object. Therefore my plan would be to talk to said terrorist, if necessary
in a neutral place, and if necessary giving him an amnesty for the duration
of the talks. I would listen to what he had to say, and then respond to it
accordingly. If the talks could not possibly reach any conclusion at least
partly acceptable to both parties, then I suppose I'd have to resort to
giving him a good slap, but normally something would be possible even if it
meant that I (as President) would have to give some ground, and live in
peace with Mr Terrorist and his mates. The mess can be sorted out later.


They did in Afghanistan, and look what happened. If you think you can
talk to these, you're in a worse state then they are!

I think what I'd do is to invade a country that was probably nothing to
do
with the terrorism, murder a load of innocents, and then tell everybody
what
a great job I'd done.


Bush and Blair wouldn't let you!


I don't understand this comment ...


Then read your statement above again!

They'd re-elect me then. But I suspect my IQ is
something like double that of Mr Bush.


You have one!


I have 166 at the last count, but I am much cleverer than that because I
didn't join Mensa! Bush's IQ is reported at less than 100, which makes him
less intelligent than the average for his population and most farm animals.
It is also known that he is illiterate and quite bonkers.


Yet he still stands for freedom. Great guy. What do you do for global
freedom, bright eyes?

We need governement to tell us what to do, then force us to comply,
because
we are mindless idiots who are incapable of independent thought.


Spot on.


I can't honestly believe that any right-thinking individual believes this -
I want to be put back in the Matrix.


From that we can presume you do nothing to help society?

And the
governement has a marvellous track record of always doing the right thing
and looking after us. Or something.


Much better than we have left to our own devices.


Er, are you a troll? If so, you are sussed and you must stop.


What do you do to help society?




Just out of curiosity.What would you do to save us and the planet?


I already do what I can.


Like what? you seem somewhat cagey.

I am not in a position to do any more because
computer programmers are not eligible for government :-) You have to have
been a lawyer, telephone sanitiser, or similar.

I fear I am too little, too late, however. But I'm not a troll.


And you wonder why someone else needs to think for you!