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Old 20-09-2006, 05:04 PM posted to uk.environment.conservation,uk.rec.gardening
Des Higgins Des Higgins is offline
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Default Ailanthus altissima: "toxic tree of heaven"


"John McMillan" wrote in message
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"michael adams" wrote:

"Des Higgins" wrote in message
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"Geoff" wrote in message
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On 19 Sep 2006 09:55:36 -0700, "Bill" wrote:


BAC wrote:
"Bill" wrote in message
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BAC wrote:

Don't panic, it's been here for 250 years or so without 'taking
over'.

But the climate has heated up at an accelerated rate and now it

might
be more sympathetic to this trees native conditions.


It may indeed, but that doesn't mean it will inevitably become a

problem
here.


Over long time spans, you get more and more species and species
mixtures
evolving that are highly specific to particular locations and habitats
and
which can do this because they are isolated
Then when we come along and mix them with each other you get species

warfare
and you end up with fewer species as one species replaces others either
directly through competition or indirectly through habitat loss/change

(e.g.
Rhodendron ponticum in SW Ireland are replacing Oakwoods and all the

mosses
and liverworts that live in them). That is backwards evolution towards

the
kind of species mix you get in supermarket carparks.

Disgruntled of Dublin



There are only two sides in species warfare. The human species on one
side against which nothing can prevail, and everything else on the other.


http://www.patternliteracy.com/exotics.html

http://dtheo.org/AABGAPaper.htm

http://dtheo.org/NativesVs.Exotics.htm

http://dtheo.org/BookOrder.htm



Some good points but you completely ignored the point I was making and I can
answer all of the points in the above with these:

http://www.hoganstand.com/HomePage.aspx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0130j5UVpbQ

http://www.arachne.com/

http://www.jackiehealyrae.com/

In particular I recommend the sections from the GAA and Jackie Healy Rae;
they have comments dotted around their web sites about the effects of aliens
on hurling pitches and roadside dancing in Kerry.

HTH

Dem vs Us 'R' Us