I am extremely sorry to read in the raspberries thread that two of its
most longterm contributors, Judith Lea and Sacha Hubbard have left urg
because they are no longer prepared to tolerate the appalling level of
lies, abuse, and threats made against them.

Those who stood by and said nothing should be ashamed, particularly
those who counted both as friends in real life, or have been the
recipients of their legendary generosity with plants, time and
hospitality.

Janet

Not long ago I was involved in a row on another newsgroup and I have no
intention of taking sides and/or getting involved in another one on this
group but I am sorry that Sacha and Janet are leaving and I will most
certainly miss their advice and knowledge :-(

kate