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I've been try8ing to identify the various honeysuckles in the garden,
and am OK on all but 2.

1) small leaved low bush with oval leaves with pointed ends, about 1cm
long, evergreen, inconspicuous flowers, seen in municipal plantings
everywhere, and not L nitida (which has round ends to the leaves.

2) evergreen climber, leaves about 1.5cm long, oval, abundant small pink
flowers in early summer, branches festooned with red berries in late
summer

Any ideas?
--
Kay

For the first, could probably be L. pileata which tends to be more
horizontal in its growth than L nitida with longer leaves which nearly
always look good and glossy whatever time of year. It occasionally has
purplish berries but I haven't seen these often on mine.

I don't know about the second 'm afraid.

Janet G