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Old 16-11-2006, 04:20 PM posted to rec.gardens
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Default Apple Tree From Seed

I really don't think the OP's goal here is to grow apples. As I read
it, the goal is to grow children's minds. For that purpose, planting
seeds from apples is an ideal activity.

Jo Ann

sherwindu wrote:
Why put all this effort into an apple tree that will produce lousy tasting
apples. I mean, isn't growing
an apple tree for the apples the main objective of all this? Put a
little extra effort into doing a graft in the spring of a known variety.
Grafting is really
not that difficult. Various clubs and institutions teach it or you can learn
how to do it
from books, or the web. If you just want to see if you can get apples from
seeds, you probably have to
wait at least 7 years to see one. By then, the kids will have gone on to other
endeavors. If they graft an
apple tree to a dwarf rootstock, they might see some apples in a much shorter
time. I have had apples
appear only two or three years after grafting them onto dwarf rootstock.
Standard trees, like those
grown from seeds, take much longer to bear fruit.

As in life, with apple trees there are few good shortcuts or quick fixes.

Sherwin D.


kaspian wrote:

Sure, the little saplings ought to grow into healthy young trees, which
will do fine in the DC area -- IF you can get them through this first
winter.

It's probably too late to "harden them off" sufficiently to leave
outdoors. Nonetheless, it would be a good idea, as long as the weather
remains above freezing, to put them in separate pots (with a generous
amount of space for young growing roots) and leave these outdoors
exposed to the elements. This will produce stronger and tougher
saplings than leaving them in an inside window.


I bury my pots in the garden to keep the soil inside them from freezing.



The best thing for the coming months would probably be a cool
greenhouse, or perhaps a sunny window in an unheated basement. Failing
that, you'll have to try with an ordinary sunny window, preferably not
in a spot near a heat outlet or radiator. Unnatural heat, coupled with
dim indoor light, is a bad combination that encourages weak, lanky
growth.


They really don't need sunlight, as they go dormant in the winter months.



In that regard also, you should avoid giving them too much fertilizer,
and especially fertilizer with a high nitrogen (N) content -- the first
number in a fertilizer formula like 15-10-10.

If you've got a LOT of seedlings, you might do well to select a small
number to pamper through the winter. In cases like this, I used to let
each kid pick ONE plant as his or her own. They could decorate the
pot, and they were nominally responsible for caring for the plant
(though in practice I mostly took care of this, for the plants' sake).

Next spring, if all goes well, you can reverse the process -- when the
weather begins to warm, gradually begin introducing the plants to the
wild, until they acclimate to the stronger sunlight and harsher weather
conditions. Remember when you finally plant them to allow plenty of
room to grow.


Especially if they are planted from seeds. They will produce full size apple

trees, over 20 feet, which are a pain to maintain and harvest. Another
reason
to make the trees on dwarfing rootstock that can be as small as 6 feet high.

It will be great fun for the kids as the years go by --
IF we can pull through the few months ahead.

On 2006-11-14 17:58:21 -0500, "Buck Turgidson" said:

As a "teachable moment" with my little kids, I we put some seeds from
some apples we ate in a planter. Now, 6 weeks later, some appear to
have sprouted. Will these do well here in the DC area?

Thanks.


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