I disagree. if those involved all kill file the "perpetrator" the nasty
threads die off. if those not involved don't kill file the nasty threads
die off naturally and so the group remains. I am afraid to say that it does
seem as though some people have too much time on their hands. and rather
than letting go of a situation it snow balls.

everyone is different and is able to make the choice themselves.

personally I have nowt against La Puce. if we have words in the future then
that is up to me to take whatever action I feel appropriate. until then all
the retaliatory e-mails backwards and forwards from those concerned and
those butting in are meaningless. I am big enough and old enough to decide
what I post.

I also take what I can from this NG. why? because I have nothing to
contribute to gardening. why? because I am trying to learn and I am not in
a position to provide useful advice.


"Sacha" wrote in message
...
I had no idea Judith was going to post tonight. But I am very glad she
has
because she has exposed the malice directed at the very heart of her life
and career.
And I would like just to say this - while I have every sympathy with those
who kill file persistent cross posting and off topic trolls, I would also
like to point out that many of those who emailed me and Judith about what
was done to her said they didn't know about it because they had kill filed
Puke. I understand their reasons for doing so and I sympathise with their
impatience with her methods but she, Puke, DID come here purporting to
give
gardening advice. As a result of that, she should have been read and
watched when it became apparent that much of what she wrote was not good
advice at all. IMO, the group and all those asking advice of it, deserve
the vigilance of everyone posting here. A very few of us adhered to that
and as a result, we received a horrible amount of abuse and Judith was
subjected to a torrent of it.
If you - all of us - want this to be a real group we ALL have to look
after
it. We ALL have to make sure it is not abused by *anyone*. I am not
interested in garden machinery or growing leeks but I did, at least, skim
every thread to see what was going on. If people don't do that, they miss
what was being done to Judith and could be done to others. Sorry but that
won't do. A couple of years ago, a very valuable poster to this group
remarked that people were coming here, taking what they wanted and
otherwise
contributing nothing. She predicted then that this would damage urg and I
admit freely that I thought she was exaggerating. I was wrong and she was
right and she is another who has gone, as have several other real experts.
That "Pull up the ladder Jack, I'm alright" outlook was why Judith was
treated so appallingly. Afterwards, several people expressed their
private
regrets to me in emails but too late. URG has been horribly tainted by
this
closing of the eyes to what does not affect the individual and it seems to
me that it should never be allowed to happen again.
IMO, the lesson to be learned from this is that if you kill file over
zealously, you lose the thread - literally - and then, you lose the group.
If you're a member of a group, then I think it is up to you to make sure
the
group remains healthy.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/