snip Was it growing outside in the UK Jim?
Jenny

Yes it was in a large container and had been there for at least 6 years.
(Surrey)
Thanks for all replies. I did actually find info elsewhere so I can let the
owner have the details.
My plant encyclopaedia says to propagate with softwood cuttings but I wonder
if seed might be ok as there are plenty of berries on it. The lady who owns
it says many have tried to propagate from it and all failed so I do like a
challenge. Wonder if the seeds need stratification though I doubt it being a
native of NZ