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Old 01-12-2006, 01:44 AM posted to rec.ponds
[email protected] george@home.com is offline
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Default Attn: True rec.ponder's -update for 11-30-06 -from "george"

Hi & best wishes to all the true rec.ponders reading this,

Here's what's been happening:

1. I met in person with a member of the Big-8 Board this
afternoon. That person had a lot of very helpful info and suggestions
to pass on.. I'll be sharing much of this with the potential
co-moderators.

2. We now have 6 potential co-moderators, and possibly a
seventh.
I will __NOT___ need to be a co-moderator. In fact, once
the new group gets going, I plan to step back and just enjoy it, and
all the little fishies in my own pond.

3. I will be contacting the potential co-moderators in the next
day or so. There is a lot that needs to be done in the upcoming 7-14
days.

4. I expect that the RFD will be sent to Big-8 in about 7-14
days. Those that wish to respond to it, either pro or con, will need
to make sure their news provider starts to carry the group, and then
they will need to subscribe to it.
By the way, when the RFD is published, then my true name and
email address will be included with it. And everyone won't have to
wonder any more. No more substitute names. Just the real thing.
By the way, my own email address has plenty of filters on it.
Probably more than 95% of the people here.

5. It should be pretty clear by now that the moderation of
messages in the new group must be strictly content-based, and not
personality based. This should be very acceptable to all true
rec.ponders. Its the subject matter of a post that we should care
about, not who sent it. And my guess is that that is also what the
Big-8 will expect and perhaps even insist upon.

6. The Big-8 has to be shown that there is a very real and
desired wish by MANY rec.ponders for the creation of a moderated
newsgroup. "Just a few" supporters won't cut it. To be viable
long-term, any group must have a fairly large support base. Otherwise
it probably won't last very long.

To that end, I am urging, in the strongest possible way, that
all true rec.ponders contact as many former rec.ponders as they can.
Convince them that a new day is dawning, and that we must have their
visible support. That means that if they want rec.ponds.moderated
to be created, we will need them to post their support and approval to
news.groups.proposals. (after the first RFD is published.) If they
sit back and hope that others do the visible supporting, then we may
not get enough posts to show that we can be a viable, long-term
group.
(My own thinking is that we need not just 20 or 30, but 70-100
or more to show Big-8 that we really need, and want, and support a new
rec.ponds.moderated.)
This, I think, is where our greatest efforts need to be put right
now. By the way, I am sure that the Big-8 will not be looking at the
number of posts, but at the number of bonifide different people that
will be posting. Even if you or I post 20 times each, the "real"
count is only 2, not 40.


Finally: to all potential moderators. I've had a long and busy
day, (and week) and I'm very tired. I'll be in touch with you in the
next day or so.

George (some of you know who I really am)
(everyone else will know the day the first RFD
is published. And __then__ the discussions pro/con will start, in
news.groups.proposals)


PS: I continue to work on the details surrounding the mechanics of
robo-moderation, where the robot is located, and what mechanisms will
be put in place to see the whole process through. The moderators will
be gven all the details, and will make the final decisions, not me.
Also, many of these details will be in the first RFD, to be viewed and
discussed (pro/con/changes/additions/etc) by all the persons who go to
news.groups.proposals. Your opinions and ideas/suggestions WILL
matter and be taken into consideration by the moderators.
The more true rec.ponders that show up, the more the final RFD
will reflect the consensus of the __ entire__ group. (The first
RFD is just the starting point.)

george