Köi-Lö wrote:

"Gill Passman" wrote in message
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So maybe we have got, through sensible discussion, to the point that
in a commercial or large lake environment maybe shooting/killing is
the best option...on a smaller scale then the sculptures, sprays, nets
and fences will be the best option but it isn't the way to go on a
large scale environment....


This may be true but I have seen some large breeding establishments
netted. They don't care what it looks like as the fish and the
environment are what's most important. We chose the nets rather then
having to constantly watch the ponds to chase away the predators, or to
kill them. Killing the herons will do nothing for other predators you
have in rural areas here in the USA.

I think that point is academic....you cannot net a loch or lake that is
many acres in size....appearance in these sort of applications are not
really an issue...the commercial raising of fish either Koi for resale
or trout for human consumption is lucrative......Yes you can watch a
"small pond" but not something on a larger scale....

That would be up to the moderators. If someone don't like someone else's
post they can ignore it and not reply. Or if the moderator can see it's
clearly designed to make people angry, they can refuse to pass it.
Where to draw the line - I have no idea.

Sometimes being contraversial and in fact posting something you don't
necessarily hold as an opinion opens the world up to healthy debate. I
could post that I believe that fish fry are a valid food source for my
other fish and get flamed but it opens a debate as to how we see
this.....and it becomes an interesting on topic discussion....I might be
seen as being provoctive in saying this but I can always reserve the
right of playing devil's advocate in getting a healthy debate
going....sometimes doing this is good and it gets us all to examine our
beliefs and attitudes....I don't see in anyway that a moderated group
should lead to a supression of this sort of discussion - because it is
very valid and a dilemma that faces any type of fishkeeper....get rid of
the predator or sacrifice the fish - ever seen an angel with mollie
fry???? Ever seen a heron steal a prize fish???? where do we actually
draw our moral line.....discussing it is great and I am pleased that the
topic has been brought up...



It will be even better once the personal attacks are stopped and or
removed as I'm sure you would agree. ;-) Also, if those who constantly
harass and troll me are forced to keep one NYM, they can be killfiled.

I guess the whole thing is about everyone keeping one nym.....and a
valid reply to address....personal attacks will not happen on a
moderated group....and hey everyone can shift nyms and email addresses
at the drop of a hat as has been demonstrated by the mess on
rec.ponds....you can all also pretend to be one another....but the key
really is where is the point in playing these games if all you can do is
post on topic?????

yes, you can be traced but you can also filter and delete on your mail
application just the same way as you can on usenet...

Gill