Are you so intent on being an idiot or just a blind butt CArol. There
is not anywhere near enough natural foods in a liner pond to sustain
and do a koi of average size much good. Especiually a pond of say 4000
gal or smal land a handfull of decent sized koi. What do you think
they eat the mulm.......not likely, thats about beliveing a aquarium
catfish or snail eats "all" detrius and needs no additional foods and
leaves nothing in return to clean up. ....
Get a clue Carol if a pond as such is sufficient there would nort be a
need for additional feeds period now woudl there. Everything has a
stocking level and since its its own self contained system a pond is
highly dependable on lots of things. Not so with a natural pond, Hell,
I do not know why I am even tryng to explain this simple thing to you
as your only going to argue the point anyhow and its of no value to
you in learning the facts anyhow since yur not really interested in
learning as much as you are in arguing.
On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 22:32:05 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"~ janj" wrote in message
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:45:49 -0600, Tristan
wrote:

Ah so I did, but I also keep my koin na natural mud pond which is full
of natural stuff koi are meant to eat as well not kept in a liner or
preform pond, so ther eis a difference I do belive and I think the
others here will agree with me.
I feed catfish food, no trout as its not available here, but a 50
pound bag will last me a year or more as i use it only to throw a
small a maount out to entice the fish to come u p so I can have a look
see as to how they are all doing. Its called responsive feeding., Its
not meant to be nutritional in any way. It was a method recomeded to
me by the fisheries and biology department of The U of Florida. Do
you know of a better way? The entire object is get em up to look at,
not feed em enough to make em dependant or to give em any real
nourishment. Cheerios and other cereals was also on that list of
suggested responsive food stuff.

And I have no problem what so ever with that. I have no problem with Carol
feeding her fish whatever she wants or can afford. But, imho, people
shouldn't feed low quality food (especially non-fish food) to fish in a
liner pond with little to no natural food sources.

Why assume there are no natural food sources in a liner pond? Like most
ponders I have a load of plants and there's mulm on the bottom. They koi
feast on any insects that get close enough, worms I saw fall in with my own
eyes, worms I throw in, algae from the liner and plant pots, frog eggs and
taddies etc. I do not have those crystal clear sterile ponds some of you
have. I never said I did over the years.

Now to add something to this (and I probably shouldn't) but I have seen it
happen that fish fed high-corn foods (taste like candy) will put their
nose
at some of the higher quality feeds. Sometimes one has to buy small
containers of high quality food and see which the fish will like before
investing in the eco-bag-size. ~ jan

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