Bill Rose wrote:
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However, if the vines are a culinary effort, get cuttings and the vines
will come true.

The subject of this thread is Vitis arizonica, not Pinot Noir. Define
"true" in the context of the lowly Arizona grape. There is absolutely
no reason to constrain oneself to propogating cuttings of this plant.
Seeds should be fine.

Greg G., you come across a little edgy. Are you getting enough fiber?

Sorry if I seem edgy, I just get a little bent of out shape when self
appointed experts like yourself jump in with advice that is neither
relevant nor helpful.

Regards,

Greg G.