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Old 12-01-2007, 12:45 AM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,uk.rec.gardening,uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.fishing.coarse
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"Derek Moody" wrote in message ...
In article , pearl
wrote:
"Jim Webster" wrote in message news:50m60pF1fu3
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One instance. Your sort of business has put millions in an early grave.


Jim's sort of business has fed millions of people in cities who would
otherwise have gone hungry - or worse.


No. Jim's sort of business kills millions, both at home and abroad.

A colossal part of the Earth's land surface has been devoted to pasture,


Because a colossal part of the Earth's land surface will not grow any crop
suitable for human consumption.


The arable land currently being cultivated could comfortably feed the
entire human population, but much is used to feed livestock instead.

We've done this one to death many times Pearl (Lotus). Jim even offered you
the use of enough of his land to demonstrate your principles and show him,
and the rest of the farming community, where they were going wrong.

You declined then when you realised the impossibility of the task you had
set yourself


Hardly, (and are you sure you aren't confusing me with another?)

and so Jim has continued to graze that same land extensively
(look it up - Lotus, don't guess) and to convert its product into food.


There are many alternatives, I gave you all one not that long ago.

Consult google or one of the other usenet archives if your memory is faulty.


You do that. Meanwhile...

'In his 1583 text, Anatomy of Abuses, Stubbes wrote that previous
generations "fed upon graine, corne, roots, pulse, hearbes, weedes,
and such other baggage; and yet lived longer than we, were healthfuller
than we, of better complexion than we, and much stronger than we in
every respect." A century later, Macauley noted that, "meat was so
dear in price that hundreds of thousands of families scarcely knew
the taste of it," while half the population of England, "ate it not at all
or not more often than once a week."

Writing in the 1840s, Sylvester Graham observed: "The peasantry
of Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Turkey, Greece, Italy,
Switzerland, France, Spain, England, Scotland, Ireland, a
considerable portion of Russia and other parts of Europe subsist
mainly on non-flesh foods.
...
"The hardy Scotch have never been great meat eaters. In the remote
districts kailbrose, shredded greens and oatmeal over which hot water
is poured, is eaten with or without milk...According to Douglas,
writing in 1782, the diet of the Scotch of the East Coast was then
oatmeal and milk with vegetables. He says: 'Flesh is never seen in
the houses of the common farmers, except at a baptism, a wedding,
Christmas, or Shrovetide.'"
.....'
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