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Old 12-01-2007, 01:30 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,uk.rec.gardening,uk.business.agriculture,uk.rec.fishing.coarse
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except that they are still eating more and more meat

Some are. Others, many millions, are starving because land that had
supported them sustainably for generations was expropriated by and
for a meat-eating 'wealthy elite'. You ignore it, because -you-
'profit'.

sure, and explain how I profit out of meat production in china?


I didn't say that you profited from meat production in China.


and now explain why more chinese eating meat, many getting a decent diet for
the first time makes them a wealthy elite


".. diseases of affluence are found in the more densely populated
rural areas nearer the seacoast where industrial activity and literacy
rates are higher ..."

'In many developing nations there has been a rapid increase in the
incidence of cardiovascular disease, obesity, diabetes, lung cancer
and a host of other health disorders concomitant with a rise in
economic affluence (Pellett, 1989). In contrast with the
communicable and infectious diseases affecting the rural poor,
the more economically privileged urban sectors in these countries
suffer from a rising prevalence of chronic degenerative diseases
appropriately referred to as 'diseases of misdevelopment' by
Dumont (1989). Not only do these chronic diseases have a
debilitating effect on a productive segment of the active elite but
also the costs of treating these diseases tend to absorb a
disproportionate share of the public health resources in favor of
an already privileged social group. It is therefore of utmost
importance to developing nations to avoid creating a new and
costly pathology soon after emerging from the scourge of
infectious and nutritional deficiency diseases (Pellett, 1989).
...
China has developed a unique system of decentralized planning
which has recently incorporated private initiative in agriculture,
industry, and trade. From the early 1950s to the mid-1970s the
Chinese government had strict control over agricultural
production and trade. It gave priority to staple foods over
preferred foods (legumes, meats, fruits) in order to ensure an
adequate supply of essential grain for all provinces. Until
recently government policy favored direct consumption of
grain over consumption of animal products requiring feedgrains
(Jamison and Piazza, 1987). However, policy has changed
markedly in the last few years. With the consolidation of the
new 'production responsibility system' the government expects
a rapid growth in the livestock sector (World Bank, 1985).
Cattle production will be limited by the carrying capacity of
China's grasslands, which are already overgrazed. Poultry and
pig production are more dependent on the availability of feed
concentrates. Such production has been increasing for the last
ten years, and there is now a concern that it might be necessary
to monitor the consumption of high-animal-fat food to prevent
deleterious effects both economic and nutritional.
....'
http://www.mcspotlight.org/media/rep...ll_china2.html

'.. two-thirds of all soybeans and meal imported into the UK came
from Brazil, the primary source of non GM soy in the world.
..
http://www.pgeconomics.co.uk/pdf/PGE...ments.01.p df

'In Central and South America, ever-increasing amounts of land
are being used to grow soya beans and grain for export - to be
used as animal feed.


exactly, because these people are determined to eat more meat.


We're talking about -your- profits here, jimmy.

Obviously it
will mean they have less to export to those whinging in Europe who cannot be
bothered to grow their own food, but don't moan to me, go on line to the
Latin American groups and moan at them


You buy their produce.

Sadly for you, the meat-eating 'wealthy elite' now includes the massive
majority of the people in these countries, and they are going to have their
meat and you are the one who is going to have to pay more for your food.
They now have three choices
They can eat meat
They can convert grain to fuel
they can sell it to you at an increasingly expensive price


"While soybean exports boomed in Brazil to feed Japanese
and European livestock - hunger spread from one-third to
two-thirds of the population"...."Where the majority of people
have been made too poor to buy the food grown on their own
country's soil, those who control productive resources will, not
surprisingly, orient their production to more lucrative markets
abroad."

Pro-trade policies like that of the North American Free Trade
Agreement (NAFTA) and the General Agreement on Tariffs
and Trade (GATT) promotes export crop production and
suppresses basic food production. Foreign aid from industrialised
countries has supported such free trade and free market policies.
... '
http://www.psrast.org/nowohu.htm