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Old 22-01-2007, 12:39 AM posted to rec.ponds
Tristan Tristan is offline
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Default And the pond now has 500+ koi



Actually if yu make the pond so it can be netted with a seine net its
easy to retreive a fish in short order ifyu habve a helping hand
togive a hand. POnds made to be seine netted however are usually
shallower and have uniform bottoms which are suuited to usuing a net,
and totally void of any obstructions of structures. No need to drain
em.

Around thes eparts the routinely seine out a cat fish pond or tilapia
pond in a few hours time and have new fish added in all the same
day.....I bet the ponds the guy has are not all that large......and
may be in the area of perhaps a half acre or so for a given amount of
fish. After all they are under roof, or covered in netting for bird
predation control, and the main ingredieint is natural mud and waters.
Face it, how many ponders with a 5000 gal or so koi poind they spent
lots of money on in their yard be it formal or informal in design, is
gonna be satisfied with muddy water......NONE it goes aginast their
grain, but odds are even though they have their GC koi farmed out to
the "fish spa" they stil have decent koi in their backyard ponds....
One hting that is really debateable is koi do not belolng ina water
gsarden........so a dedicated koi keeper is not gonna have plants in
his/her pond....they may have another dedicated pond for water
gardening, but usually water gardens and koi keeping are two separate
functions to a dedicated koi keeper......Whats anothe rpond if you can
afford: a $50,000.00 koi, air fare to ship it to various events, money
to build a suuitbale pond at yur house and then pay to have it in a
koi spa and time to go to these shows and show yur fish.....mucho
money for sure, so a separate pond to have water plants in is small
change for most of those foks. Me....fish and plants are like pretzels
and beer..they go good togehter.

On , 21 Jan 2007 23:55:07 +0000, Gill Passman
wrote:

~ janj wrote:


They use pictures.... and probably hold-harmless contracts. ;-) ~ jan

OK they might hold pictures but then think of the whole logistics of
catching an individual fish without draining the pond in the first place
and stressing all of the others....I must say I don't blame Tristan not
to want to consider it....might be different if you are raising them in
a small pond or kiddy pool but then so would the breeder being doing
just that so there is no advantage to them to move them.....the fishery
in Scotland I go on about a bit....has two small grow out ponds (about
1/2 acre a piece) and from talking to the owner just moving the fish
indiscriminately is quite a task let alone if he was getting selective
in what he was attempting to catch....indeed the whole ecosystem of the
pond/lake environment would collapse if he needed to drain to be
selective....now I would guess if money is the big motivator and you are
talking Kois worth thousands then you might do it....but IMO it would
also be putting undue stress on the other Kois worth thousands just to
get one or two out.....so to do it you would need a mud pond of quite a
size dedicated to each customer......and then you are talking very big
bucks....

Gill



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