Thanks Gene, live & grow zone 9/10, S.Calif.

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Cheers Wendy

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Gene Schurg wrote:
Wendy,

I forget where you live. I find this at Lowes or Home Depot in the
garden section. The Bayer Advanced Tree and Shrub Insect Control
comes in a blue quart bottle for about $18.00. They also make a rose
spray in the same line that is of lesser concentration but I used the
tree and shrub stuff.

A 32 oz bottle will make 32 gallons of mix at one oz to the gallon.

Gene



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I was checking my poison cabinet & noticed that I will soon be out
of Mavrik. So could someone tell me what to look for in the Bayer
product section. As I recall the Mavrik & Enstar II cost me over
$100 so if the Bayer is cheaper then that would be great.
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Bob Walsh wrote:
Wendy,

You probably don't need to try the Bayer product. Imidacloprid is
the chemical that kills the bugs in both Mavrik and the Bayer Shrub
& Brush. Mavrik is available in a far more concentated product so it
costs more but goes much further.

From what I have read do not rely on it to kill mites. Plants
treated with Imidacloprid may even attract them. Maybe that's why I
have (or had if the soap worked) them.

Bob

"wendy7" wrote in message
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Thanks for this info Pat & Gene, yes I have seen plenty of the
dreaded Boisduval!
I had colour break & mutant looking flowers when I used a systemic
call Cygon
a number of years ago. (No longer available)
Have used Ortho WP along with Neem. Have not tried the Bayer
product? I have been using Enstar II along with Mavrik & so far
the best results for me. I think the Mavrik is a topical treatment
but the two are mixed together.
I mark & tag plants specially treated & document g/h sprays etc.

Now I am one that always experiments & have found that you have
to keep on
a strict regimen forever or the buggers come back.
I have unpotted a scale infested plant, cleaned every bit of
potting mix, trimmed old roots etc., sprayed any visible bugs with
alcohol, then left this
plant soaking in the Enstar/Mavrik solution over night & the next
day there
were little white babies trying to escape. Unbelievable, the float
& creep to
the sides of the bowl!!!
So my point being they are never gone.
Happy debugging,
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Pat Brennan wrote:
Hi Gene,

You might find this site helpful.

http://www.entomology.umn.edu/cues/i...ine/Scale.html

Based on what is says, the timing seems right for the October
outbreak to be from eggs not killed. Not much will kill a bug in
all the life cycles.

I do not think you can assume you will get a years coverage from a
single spraying. The label you are reading was written for a
seasonal plant with seasonal bugs. Based on what I have seen
assume 4 to 6 weeks.

I have used this chemical to fight fungus gnats. I talked with
the rep and he recommend monthly sprayings. The label tells you
to limit sprayings to 2 per growth cycle (I am doing this from
memory so this might not be exactly right). I was afraid that
too much of a good thing would lead to color breaks, so I never
followed his advice and followed the label limits. With three
drenches you hit them pretty hard; I am interested to know much
color breaking you see in your Phals this winter. Aug is a
pretty safe month to be hitting Phals with systemics so there is
a good chance you will not see any. Pat