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Old 16-02-2007, 01:03 AM posted to rec.ponds
Zebulon Zebulon is offline
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Default Sick koi and need advice (with pics)


"~ jan" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:06:03 -0600, Zëbulon
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BTW the herons here are
the small ones about the size of a banty rooster.


Instead of being defensive, you could have mentioned this and the size of
the fish.


Why wasn't I asked before all the lectures and all the ASSUMING? Why do I
have to post 10K posts covering every little bitty thing when no one else is
expected to? What would make you think I would take "diseased fish" and
illegally dump them in some waterway or lake? Then when accused you don't
understand why I get a bit defensive. Why suddenly am I under suspicion with
every post, every subject when it wasn't this way before? When I had those
problems years ago with "contagious ulcers" the fish were disposed of by
burial where nothing could get to them to spread the disease. What couldn't
be sterilized was burnt in the burn bin. Not one of you questioned me at the
time about the disposal method I used.

A Great Blue Heron, could fly away with an 18-24" fish, it has happened
here. So they don't have those in your area of Tennessee? My bird book
says
they are throughout the USA (and beyond). You're lucky.


Sure they may be here, but so are bobcats and I don't see them either. I've
seen cranes down by the lake. No huge herons. Where does that leave
ponders then? Are we to net every pond to keep these huge birds from
carrying away our fish? You're not going to find many ponds where the fish
are 100% parasite free. It's suspected were I live that some diseases are
carried by frogs, snakes, water birds etc. How do you think sunfish get
into my ponds?

Why not jan? Everyone else seems to feel they can lash out at me and say
anything they want.


Then you're no different then when Roy was attacking everyone.


Really? Who have I called the things he has called people for no reason at
all Jan? Have I called you a whore, a carpet-bagger, a gangster and some of
the things he's called people just for posting here?

I wasn't
attacking you, I wasn't even personally addressing you at the time. I was
just mentioning what I know. You took it personal and then lashed out at
me. So why not you ask? Because it is wrong and hypocritical.


So if you get annoyed you are free to show your annoyance but I am not? I'm
held to a different standard for some reason these days.


They lash out and jump on everything I say. Everything
has to be explained down to the last minute detail.


If you don't want to be misunderstood. When I say heron, and I bet 90% of
the people here do also, I think of the Great Blue.


And here in TN 90% of the people would probably think of the smaller herons
which are the bane of pond owners.

Why and *I* held to a different standard? Why didn't you do this to the
other poster to
recommended shooting and killing a protected bird, never mentioning it was
both illegal and immoral here in the USA?


Stick to the present and not some long past post.


The kill heron post was from a few days ago as way my sick fish post. What
makes mine recent and that one long past when they're from the same week?

I didn't see this posted
recently here on RP, and if someone else covered it, I didn't see anything
to add. Last time I saw someone post that information was long, long ago.
I
don't pull up old posts that have since lost their importance or
timeliness.


It was recent. I said the same suggestion to shoot and kill herons was made
in the past also.

Then please ask for details before lecturing me on illegally "dumping
diseased" fish in waterways.


I didn't, see paragraph 3. I can't help it if you see everything I type as
lecturing YOU. That is YOUR problem not mine.


What would you call lecturing? What do you want me to call it to please
you? Why say anything at all or ask for details which you did not do.

You're lecturing me on wildlife laws


You're getting your posters mixed up. I didn't even mention wildlife laws.

I'm well aware of without asking me for
more information *FLOORS* me - since you never did this to anyone else.
Why
do it to me?


When I have replied to something that is a misunderstanding due to what
that poster typed, they come back and civilly fix it. They rarely took it
as a personal attacked. Why are you different you ask? That's why.


I see. OK, next time ASK for a detailed explanation if you feel you need
one. I ASSUMED you had the smarts to know I knew the laws and would not
contaminate a local waterway (no rivers near me) or lake with "diseased
fish."

I don't want to hear it's legal to kill Herons in the UK because he didn't
tell the poster that - and YOU never said a word!!!! God help me if I
posted something like that.


I rarely EVER post on what makes heron an edible meat. It is not a hot
button for me, others cover that topic quite well. I never have and
probably never will. So my not saying a word wasn't a new MO for me. ~
jan


Then please don't "say a word" to me next time when it comes to the farm
ponds ok? :-) Because illegally killing birds is a more serious issue to
me than releasing a fish into a farm pond to let nature take it's course,
which it did, rather than killing her myself.
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ZB....
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rec.ponder since late 1996.
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