Facts are facts there is only one person with any intent on forging
headers and thats carol contrary as to what she says with other
supposedly using hipcrime., Its just not so......no proof has ben
given any posts made by Tristan or others sop accused have used
hipcrime but its clearly evident she is ussing hipcrime and forgeing
posts as her last rampage this past week on JAn has demonstrated and
her Bellsouth forgeries......What better domain to use than your own
with forged headers to make it appear that way.......too mbad the
truth came out especially when she confessed to Gill she is behind the
trashing of rref group.....and they were all the forged bellsouth
posts made through alt.net server......Can't get much better than a
self confession by trhe queen bee herself and no one used a rubber
hose on her in th eprocess, she just screwed up and it was caught by
others......I guess carol is losing her touch and control with those
sokcs she keeps! Too may socks, too many lies, too many free news
servcer accounts to keep up with. Normal folks only need one....



..On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:00:38 -0500, Galen Hekhuis
wrote:

On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:39:30 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"Galen Hekhuis" wrote in message
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It may become a problem, I can see lots of potentials. People might
try to game the timezones to avoid a particular moderator. Like
you say, if requests are allowed some moderators might squawk at being
overburdened or virtually ignored. Perhaps some form of banning may
be necessary, but I hope not.

Banning those who constantly post profanity/smutty posts and degrading
personal attacks on others should be done. Those kinds of posts are a turn
off to any moderator and they shouldn't have to be exposed to them. They
cause bad vibes and negativity.

Many things are trivial to change, I've
been able to change my IP at will over the past few weeks. There just
isn't much to work with in header information, and I think more and
more folks will find it easier and easier to screw with header
information as time goes on. It's pretty hard to disguise your text
and still get a message across.

THERE YOU GO! That's just what I told Gill and Jan and a few people from
the aquarium groups when they wanted me to try and come back with a new nym
and persona to stop the troll attacks. It seems others here were ether
forced off the group or had to resort to this trickery because of the SAME
person/troll personally attacking them. You cannot disguise yourself
forever. The mods on the other hand are going to have to learn how to spot
forged headers. As Roy recently found out, the messages I've been accused
of sending are not from my account.

You are dealing with shrewd, experienced, obsessed "mission" trolls here as
Jayne called them Galen, and they have no intention of letting this go
because of a moderated group.

On the one hand you suggest banning certain posters, and then in the
next paragraph you argue against the very using the very same
characteristics used to identify certain posters. Banning simply
requires faith in using header information to determine identity. I
don't have such faith, the information is too easily forged/changed.



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