What does owning a fish tank or pond have to do withthe price of tea
in china CArol. There is a mod who does not have koi or a pond with
anyhtin gother than frogs in it. Everyone has to start somewhere and
who the hellare you to say that so called person may not osmeday get
themself a tank or pond........stranger things have happend, look at
you found hubby number 5 , you manage to scrape by with insinuations
and slanderous remarks without someone knocking yur head off.......so
heys its possible this person can really get a pond or fish tank. Why
do you feel the propensity to play god and dictate what others do or
don;t in regards to what yu want them to do...Your a freaking
hipocrite carol.....plain and simple. A babbling idiotic hipocrite
free of any scruples and morales of any kind.

On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 11:59:25 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"Galen Hekhuis" wrote in message
m...
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:39:30 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"Galen Hekhuis" wrote in message
news:hekbt21fmlabupc1nsbht60du5k6iaacj9@4ax. com...
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It may become a problem, I can see lots of potentials. People might
try to game the timezones to avoid a particular moderator. Like
you say, if requests are allowed some moderators might squawk at being
overburdened or virtually ignored. Perhaps some form of banning may
be necessary, but I hope not.

Banning those who constantly post profanity/smutty posts and degrading
personal attacks on others should be done. Those kinds of posts are a turn
off to any moderator and they shouldn't have to be exposed to them. They
cause bad vibes and negativity.

Many things are trivial to change, I've
been able to change my IP at will over the past few weeks. There just
isn't much to work with in header information, and I think more and
more folks will find it easier and easier to screw with header
information as time goes on. It's pretty hard to disguise your text
and still get a message across.

THERE YOU GO! That's just what I told Gill and Jan and a few people from
the aquarium groups when they wanted me to try and come back with a new
nym
and persona to stop the troll attacks. It seems others here were ether
forced off the group or had to resort to this trickery because of the SAME
person/troll personally attacking them. You cannot disguise yourself
forever. The mods on the other hand are going to have to learn how to
spot
forged headers. As Roy recently found out, the messages I've been accused
of sending are not from my account.

You are dealing with shrewd, experienced, obsessed "mission" trolls here
as
Jayne called them Galen, and they have no intention of letting this go
because of a moderated group.
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On the one hand you suggest banning certain posters,

There are posters on this group just here to troll. One doesn't even own a
pond or fishtank. He's never posted even one on-topic message since he came
to this group.

and then in the
next paragraph you argue against the very using the very same
characteristics used to identify certain posters.

Ok, you lost me here. I've been on this group since 1996 and have both ponds
and fish tanks. Until the troll invasion virtually all my posts were
on-topic. I seldom even read the off-topic threads.

Banning simply
requires faith in using header information to determine identity. I
don't have such faith, the information is too easily forged/changed.

This is true. I didn't think of that.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!