On 20/2/07 12:19, in article
, "La Puce"
wrote:

On 20 Feb, 11:49, Sacha wrote:
It would indeed have been simpler if you had read the many sentences in
which I said that a) you might turn out to be right but b) I could not
reasonably take your word for it when you had never seen this rosemary and
c) your manner of posting and insulting and haranguing all those who will
not bow to your every word was not so alienating.

I won't start a fight again. a) you told me none of my suggestions
where remotely like what you described, b) you've never heard of
Jackman's. I told you it's the one growing in Bruncoose carpark! Now
they've told you so. From your description it sounded it.

I despair of you. I have told you categorically that I have not seen the
rosemary at Burncoose, so am in no position to identify it as anyything.
Burncoose have NOT identified this one at Salcombe as Backman's Prostrate.

NONE of your suggestions, other than this possibility, were even faintly
like what I was looking for, so please don't start again telling us that
you're an expert on a plant you've never laid eyes on.

Your picture in salcombe IS Blue rain. Do you want to bait? That was
my third suggestion.

Here is a description of R. Blue Rain
Blue Rain Rosemary
Rosmarinus officinalis 'Blue Rain'
Uses: Culinary/Medicinal/Beverage/Aromatic
Duration: Perennial (hardy in zones 8-10)
n outstanding trailing variety for hanging baskets and patio pots. The
³runners² reaching 45-60cm (18-24²) become loaded with light blue flowers
and stay in bloom for longer than most other rosemary varieties.

and here is another:

8.**Rosmarinus officinalis ŒProstratus¹ ŒBlue Rain¹ Prostrate Rosemary*
Prostrate habit, compact growth.*Covered with deep coloured* blue flowers in
spring. Very popular. Looks good in rockeries and trailing from ornamental
chimney pots

NB, runners of 18-24" and compact growth, rockeries, pots etc. The one in
Salcombe is trailing something like 10 feet from the top of the wall to the
ground. It is not therefore, R. Blue Rain.
There is no way this rosemary grows to 2' and then stops, or even allowing
for mild conditions, 5' and stops. It has actually grown across that car
parking area at the house in Salcombe and been clipped back.

And finally, I have heard back from Burncoose who say that they cannot be
sure the Salcombe rosemary is the one they have.

No but what they have in the car park is Jackman's and you've mislead
everybody in thinking I was talking rubbish. I want an apologie. I
want you to say that you shouldn't have said that all my suggestions
were rubbish because in the end 3 of my suggestions are still a
possibility, 1 is the right one and your picture is Blue Rain, I'm
certain.

You can want all you like. I did not discuss the rosemary at Burncoose as
being identified with certainty because I have never seen it. Have you? If
so, I wonder why you have not said so. Perhaps you will now!
I repeated my position over and over again, saying I could not accept that
as an ID for the plant in Salcombe because I have never seen the one at
Burncoose. YOU are the one harping on about Burncoose, not I.
It is Charlie who suggested it *might* be the same as the one at Burncoose,
not I but they, themselves, do not identify it as that. I really do wonder
why it is you cannot read and understand such obvious information.
And now please, drop this insistence that you must be correct about a plant
you haven't seen in a garden you don't know and please don't attempt to
identify any other plants I write about. Just ignore my posts.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)