[or switch to an ISP, that fits in with the rest of the world?]
Martin[/quote]

Or why not just access through Garden Banter - wots so wrong with it? I find it easy to use (you can quickly scroll through posts and replies) and if I don't want to read a particular person's reply/posting, I just ignore it. I sort of know the longer a thread generally, the 'worse' it gets so I don't read those, or skip to the last post to see how its developed. I'm just a beginner gardener so I tend to read more than respond, but I've learnt an awful lot, laughed a lot (especially when Sacha is/was on good form) and would like to think I still belong, despite accessing through Gardenbanter. I have tried accessing URG through a newsgroup twice, but each time, despite our excellent anti-virus protection, something got through leading to major repair. So I'm sticking to Garden Banter....