thanks again, a big help. i saw the long beach photos yesterday and thats
really what i want, if the alphonso karr is a little less tall then it might be
better. time to visit a couple of bamboo dealers around here and see whats
available and works best in this area. we have a very hot, humid summer to
100+, drought possible but watering is not a problem. dropped to low to mid
20's this winter a couple of times.

darn, i sure wish i had an extra $1000 to splurge on bamboo!