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Old 20-04-2007, 08:38 AM posted to aus.gardens
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"Stuart Naylor" wrote in message
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 08:32:06 +1000, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given
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"Stuart Naylor" wrote in message


i know there's two schools of thought on poo: one is that all poo is
good
(that would be me)


In just a few words :-)

Cow manure is considered safe and excellent for compost or direct in
the garden but most dogs receive medications periodically to rid them
of parasites and the medications can also kill compost worms. So first
off there is a withholding period when dog poo can't be added to the
worm farm.

but you can add the poo later after it's sat for a while, if you are
concerned :-) also, medications have changed - this may no longer be
true
in all cases. (well, i know horse medications have changed - one would
need to find out concerning dog medication specifically).


Dog dewormer has the active ingredient called fenbendazole. Compost worms
are called Eisenia fetida. If you do a google or vivisimo search on these
two search criteria, I'd be most interested if you can manage to find
anything to worry about. I couldn't.


The medications I'm currently giving to my dogs on a monthly basis
contain praziquartel


Are you sure it isn't praziquantel????? That is the most common treatment
for dogs in farming areas to prevent tapeworm, specifically the hydatid
tapeworm. It works on most worms but not heartworm AFAIK. Are you in a
farming area?

and milbemycin as the active constituents to
prevent heartworm and control all the other worms that usually infest
dogs. Previously they had diethylcarbamazine citrate daily to prevent
heartworm.


The milbemycin is the heartworm treatment for dogs which return a negative
test.

I had no luck finding anything of a scientific nature that suggested there
was any chance of the worm farm worms being killed by any of the common
vermicides applied at the recommended dosage rates.


The only really negative info I found related to Ivomectin and in that
case,
it seems that you'd need to overdose the animal (not a dog) to the point
of
death with Ivomectin (which isn't a dog dewormer) to have any affect on
soil earthworms at all.


The suppliers of worm farms and compost worms suggest a withholding
period of feeding dog poo after dogs have been treated for worms.


I would too if I was selling them. I did notice when I did a search that
this was the recommendation but I couldn't find any scientific info to back
up their advice. They might be just a bit overcautious but best to be safe
than sorry especially if there is a chance of wormfarmers using it too fresh
on leaf veg.

I was told by a very old professional gardener, that dog shit was brilliant
for fertilising citrus trees. I've never tried it as my dogs poop in the
bushes (except for one of them who was town bred and prefers to do his tiny
poops at the bottom of the steps. All his stuff goes straight into a bucket
and then to the tip when there is a bucket full).

Putting it under a citrus tree would get it out of the way and not
contaminate anything else I should imagine.