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Jangchub wrote:

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 22:35:37 -0700, William Rose
wrote:

With all due respect, herbs can be extremely dangerous. I suggest
anyone thinking of using herbs for any reason, ingestion, smelling,
burning, eating, drinking the tea of, etc. needs to vigilantly
research all the implications invloved. Sometimes herbs oils can be
volitile and even effect your health systemically through skin. Just
be careful.


With all due respect, some people are very sensitive. The least little
artificial compound or odd protein can have catastrophic results for
some people but many plants have been used as medicines long before
modern pharmaceutical made their appearance. For sure, be careful, check
out what you are ingesting and start small, but don't be paranoid. Long
before Merck, and Pfizer, mother nature provided our pharmaceutical
needs. It doesn't have to come in a bottle to be good for you.
- Bill
Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

How is what you said any different than what I said? I said for
people to check it out before just using herbs, thinking they are
perfectly safe because they grow in the garden. Most of our drugs
today are still made of plant extracts, including those of Merck and
Pfizer (whose stock I dumped a long time ago).

I wasn't inciting anyone to be paranoid, just that if someone says it
on the Internet, doesn't make it so and that includes what I say as
well.

I know someone who has a son and he heard he could trip on datura and
he ate some seeds, overdosed and is no catatonic. Oh, it's only a
herb. Pot is a herb, but it's illegal. Cocaine is a herb, also
illegal. You get my point and if not, that's okay too.

I think we are all on the same page here. No offense was intended. I was
just trying to be supportive of Eve in cutting the pharmaceutical
umbilical cord.

Sometimes we do get blind-sided by plants, take lavender for example.
Turns out that compounds in lavender oil mimic estrogen and, in a few
cases, little boys have started growing breasts.
http://www.nih.gov/news/pr/jan2007/niehs-31.htm Gives me pause because I
have a nearly half a bottle left of lavender massage oil that I use on
my wife. (Could that be why those construction workers were looking at
me the other day? Naaa)

Speaking of dats. My brother had a drop of dew from a brugmansia flower
fall in his eye. His wife had to take him to the hospital when he
started feeling dizzy and his vision blurred. They gave him a shot of
something and, he was soon back up on his feet. He was a bit shaken by
the experience but, otherwise fine.

Marijuana has been illegal since 1933, when Elliot Ness & Co. suddenly
needed a "raison d'etre" due to the legalization of booze. No doubt
about it though, marijuana can definitely be hazardous to your freedom.
Smoking anything (combustion products), can't be good for you.

And I see that that popular populist, Evo Morales, is about to legalize,
to some degree, coca in Bolivia.

That said, a person would be a fool to recreationally use amphetamines.
Everybody but "tweekers" know their mind-eating and, physically
punishing side-effects.

My favorite irritation is treating the dandelion as a weed when it is
really a great diuretic that provides potassium, which most diuretics
leach from your body.

Since we are in the same choir, I wouldn't start preaching at you.

Which leads me to,

Cloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)
- Bill