In article , Charlie wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 14:44:52 -0700, Bill Rose
wrote:

The Iraqui Government should be given a grace period in which to develop
their own hybrids, while the country pulls itself back together. Which
won't happen until Bush gets the oil. Besides, if there wasn't a
conlict, Bush would have no war profits.

Sort of reminds me of Il Duce.

Do you think they will have the freedom to develop their own
*anything* ?? Anything that would be theirs and theirs alone?

I think not.

Seems to me they had a system going, wherein they were saving their
own seeds. As were those in India with cotton. Hybridization is
certainly beneficial and results in some marvelous crops... sweet corn
for instance. Stowell's Evergreen (open pollinated) is not even close
to being as TripleSweet Hybrid or any of the super sweets. Which do I
buy at market? The really really sweet hybrids.

The super sweet are too sweet for my taste and, to my taste, don't taste
like corn but then I've only bought them out of a store. When mine are
good, they taste like sweet corn. I don't mean to start a ****in'
contest, it's just the way I like them.

But I also have
five pounds of assorted open pollinates in suspended animation.
Hybridization creates dependency, which fosters control and
exploitation.

Saving seeds is a tradition and that, along with Lord knows what else,
is being destroyed. All over the world.
Only the seven deadly sins seem to be in vogue.

Jeez man, how many children died, on account of sanctions, even
*before* the war?
Only 500,000 under 5 years of age. Madeline Albright assure us that it
was an acceptable number, may she burn in Hell.
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1084

When I mentioned poppies, here is the link.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/05/23/1392/

It seems to happen where ever the CIA goes, South east Asia, central
America, Afghanistan. Always a big jump in drugs. Ollie North was
financing his shadow government with it.

Some bloggers are speculating that, for some Iraqi farmers, there is
more profit in opium than in having to try and make a living raising
"licensed" crops. Plus the ignominy of being forced to play by rules
foriegn and not of your liking. Hell, should any of us like this?
Oh, ask the Russians. They will tell you how this is going to end.
American trainers going off with their military students and not coming
back.
The rest of the arabs and Iranians will do what they need to do. When
you get mad enough, you don't care about anything any more. You just
want to push back at any price. Bush wants his eternal war and so do his
backers. More war profits and less public control is the name of the
game and everybody in Washington knows it. But who dares bite the hand
that feeds them?

Rant over.

That weren't no rant Charlie, that was just speculatin'. I'd like to
give you my version of a rant but I'm out of time. My lovey will be home
soon and I should be getting dinner on. Maybe next time.

Back on topic. Just back from the local plant house with
a half truck load of color for the garden and patio area. I recently
was offered a rather large stash of pots and containers of various
sizes. and am going to grab some barleywine, turn off this infernal
froth makin' machine, turn on the outside music and sink my hands in
the dirt and make pretty and happy.

Next year I am going to start more of the old-timey flowers to save
seed. One great thing about the old heirloom stuff. They often
smell good. Try smellin' a hybrid Wave petunia next to an
old-fashioned vining 'tunia. You'll know what I mean.
Like hybrid roses and the real deal. Do you know if echinacea,
astragalus, and hysopp have smells? I guess I'm gonna' find out.

Care, and have a sudsy weekend all!
Don't worry about me. I never drink too much. I always pass out first.
Prost!
Charlie & Bill

Bang those pots