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Old 10-06-2007, 02:02 AM posted to rec.gardens,rec.gardens.edible
Lorenzo L. Love Lorenzo L. Love is offline
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Default Home Gardening Becomes Even More Imperative

On Thu, 31 May 2007 13:58:37 -0700, wrote:

the problem is, all carbon based fuels release CO2 when burned.

what we need is to break the hydrogen oxygen bond in water and then burn
the hydrogen
back to water. plants do this, they use solar energy to knock the
hydrogen off the
water, use the energy of the electrons to form a covalent bond (organic)
that stores
the energy (using CO2). That is really clean energy.

Ingrid


That sounds nice but it costs significantly more to extract hydrogen from
water then to produce it any other way. The most economical way at present
to produce hydrogen on a massive scale is steam reforming of the methane
in natural gas or coal gas in which the gas is combined with superheated
steam, releasing hydrogen and carbon dioxide. CH4+2H2O=4H2+CO2 if I got my
chemistry right. This is the Bush hydrogen initiative. No improvement in
carbon dioxide emissions, but it would be a boon for the natural gas and
coal industries. And that's the real point of it.

Lorenzo L. Love
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