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Old 14-06-2007, 08:59 PM posted to rec.gardens,rec.gardens.edible
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William Wagner wrote:

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Billy Rose wrote:

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Omelet wrote:

In article , Charlie wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 12:40:23 -0500, Omelet
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Nobody ever said that the American ruling class was very bright...
and they are also greedy.

It would appear they are bright enough to lead most dumb americans
around by the nose and shove anything they want up their arses.

Only 51%. (Last prexy election)

Probably less than that if you count the hachet job done by the Bushies
on the electorial system in Ohio.


As much as I love Capitalism, it can have it's drawbacks.

Drawbacks? Gimme a break. We are no longer operating under a
capitalist system. We've been drawn right into fascism.

That's not entirely accurate...

Well, yes and no. Since Woodrow Wilson started the Committee on Public
Information with participants like Walter Lippman and Edward Bernays,
the truth has become more malleable and willing to please. Edward
Bernays referred to their work as " the engineering of consent . . .
the very essence of the democratic process" (Hegemony or Survival by
Noam Chomsky, p. 8). So we live in a society that we think is free
because we've been told it is free. Yesterday on the Tom Leher News Hour
there was a discussion about what the present conflict between Hamas and
Fatah meant. Unless you follow the middle east, you may not have
realized that both of the experts presented were Fatah advisors. And so
it goes. This is a discussion?

No, we are ALREADY in the Matrix.


There is no sugar-coating the bitter pill we are being forced to
swallow.


Don't sweat it Charlie, Gary Powers didn't swallow his either.


Churlie Charlie

Indeed.

Many good burgers, with no malice in their hearts, are trying to make
sense of the world with the information that they have. If you want
better information, avoid the corporate news. Listen to Democracy Now or
find a Pacifica Radio station. Read a book by Noam Chomsky or Greg
Palast.

This entire gutting of the Constitution has taken place right in front
of us and the White House asks, "Who are you going to believe, the
President or your own lying eyes?"

To summarize, " the engineering of consent . (is) . the very essence of
the democratic process" - Edward Bernays, Committee on Public Information

To quote Will Rogers, "All I know, is what I read in the newspapers."

Can I hear a few pots please?

- Billy
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)


Manufacturing Consent Herman and Chomsky

All Consuming IMAGES Stuart Ewen

Anvil of the Heart Bruce T. Holmes

The Poverty Of Affluence Paul L. Wachtel

Amusing Ourselves to Death Neil Postman

The Age of Missing Information Bill McKibben

The Third City Borna Bebek

Wallace Stevens The Poems of our Climate Harold Bloom

The Social Vision of William Blake Michael Ferber

The Gay Genius Lin Yutang


And on and on do you really want to read all this stuff? I just try
to keep our family whole. Usually by getting out of the way and being
here. Personal interaction at the market seem to bloom by the simple
act of yielding. Not having my way whatever that is avoids conflict.
Scaling it up however international voids me as I can only deal with
things I perceive. I've enough .

Blake and Wallace and Su Tungpo are personal inspiration. ( Keep
Spirt in) ).

Balzac Sin is wanting to know every thing.

Now back to those morning glories.

Bill who plays push hands poorly.


Not much **** and vinegar today, huh, Bill? Sounds like you've gone
reflective on us. That's all well and good because it is all about being
individuals and not a commodity. But India would still be a colony of
England, if they hadn't resisted. People with dark colored skin would
still be slaves but for the struggle. Rafael Lemkin wanted to avoid it
too but it was dumped at his door. All sane men want to stay home with
their families and watch them grow. Insane men will find reasons for
them to die for glory.

And it all starts when someone pushes back.

Say, "hi" to the morning glories for me.

Maybe sticky hands would be a better match for you.

Kyungye, shue.

- Billy
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)