On Jun 21, 3:08 pm, "Lardman" wrote:

and an old fashioned mock orange from back
when they were large very highly scented flowers thats hes reduced to bare
stems around 5 foot high this had particular sentimental value.

I am sure this will recover. I have one in France which was really
high, up to 1st floor windows. I had to take it back to just six
inches high to allow a builder to do some work behind it and I really
thought it couldn't recover. A few weeks ago when I was there, lovely
new green shoots were coming through. My husband is there right now
and he tells me it is growing beautifully.

Judith