"Tim Miller" wrote in message
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 04:41:37 -0500, Gordon Couger wrote:


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Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:27:57 GMT Charles wrote:



http://plenty.150m.com/My_Links_Page..._manure01.html _


Thanks for the excellent site of comparison of rabbit manure to other
manure. Rabbit manure is unusually high in nitrogen.

Can someone tell me in chemistry if the animal body does something
with nitrogen that the plant body cannot do to nitrogen?

SNIP
Yes.
It degrades the protein, which contains nitrogen. The protein is
originally created by plants. You have this entirely the wrong way
round, I'm afraid.

Bacteria do quite well at creating protien. I can feed a cow urea for a
major part of her protien requirement and if there are enough
carbohydrates available the bacteria in the rumen will convert it to
protien the cow can use quite well.

With corn so cheap it less expensive to burn it for heating to heat a
house than anything but natural gas it makes good sense to winter cows
on pasture on corn, urea, low grade hay instead of good hay and oil
seed meal that is costs a small fortune. The cows do just as well. You
have to make sure and have enough trough space that they all get to eat
and you have to feed them every day or may have problems but after the
bacteria get through with it the cow likes it fine.

What with natural gas prices going up, corn will be more expensive to
produce. This is especially true for crops that need anhydrous ammonia,
since I suppose it's hard to import. Do you have in guesstimates on how
much U.S. farmer's production costs will increase this year?

It's not too hard to import I think it is 200 miles form one plant and 140
from another plant. You forget we sit on a rather large natural gas feild.

If I am buying corn I don't give a damn the price of NH3 only the price of
corn counts. The price of NH3 matters to the guy that grew the corn but that
is not today's problem. It will effect the price of Urea making it cost
about
380 USD per short ton but for no more than cattle need it doesn't mater.

You confuses the cost of production wiht the market value of the product. If
I could be guaranteed getting back all the money it cost to rasie a crop I
would be a rich man. I would never loose money and make some on good years.

You again show that you lack the basic underrating of farm economics.

Gordon