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Old 07-10-2007, 04:10 PM posted to rec.gardens
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wrote:
On Oct 5, 4:08 pm, "symplastless" wrote:
Correction

The outer bark is dead. The slim flux kills micros living on bark. The
outer bark is born alive. It uses its energy quickly buying suberin.
Without energy it dies.

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Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arboristhttp://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and
www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

"symplastless" wrote in message

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Scott
That would be my recommendation. The slim flux does kill bark. Also
turf. This is the thing. It's better to have one fox in the hen house
than 50 coming in. Wetwood alters the wood to a higher state of
protection. It keeps the other bad guys out. Its a niche. Proper
mulching and other treatments would be good for your tree.
proper Mulching -http://home.ccil.org/~treeman/sub3.html
and
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/M/ Look up "Mulch"
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Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.
"Scott Hildenbrand" wrote in message
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symplastless wrote:
Trees do not bleed. I.e., if you put blood on your pancakes this
morning.
There is wet wood. I would suggest two books on wetwood of trees.
Common on elms.
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/MARBOR.html
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/NTB.html
Wetwood - Wetwood is a term used for both a disease of wood and for the
wood, altered as a result of the disease.
Wetwood is wood infected by anaerobic bacteria mostly. See "wetwood"
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/W/index.html
Do not use drain tubes to drain wetwood.
So I should just let it alone and not try and seal it or anything?- Hide quoted text -

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Based on the picture given I would say it is an American Elm. Forget
the leave the bark is the distinguishing factor.
American
http://images.google.com/images?svnu...rican+elm+bark
Chinese
http://images.google.com/images?sour...=1&sa=N&tab=wi

Very different bark and growth habit

As for the old pruning cut.....Looks like you have that covered but I
would back up John and reccomend leaving it alone. You could do more
damage than harm.



So it may very well be an American Elm? I'll take a few more pictures if
anyone wants more to go by.

As for it being an American Elm do you think anyone would like to use
them as propagation plants and harvest the seeds?

I wouldn't mind someone coming by every so often to collect them when
they're ready.

Still not 100% sure that it's an American Elm though because the leaves
are on the small side, but with the killing frost this year nothing had
done well.