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Old 01-01-2008, 07:41 AM posted to rec.gardens
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"Tad" wrote in message
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On Dec 28, 2:12 pm, "symplastless" wrote:
One of the problems using tea alone is that you deprive the soil from
cellulose which would be provide by added composted wood chips. Remember,
mulch comes in different gradations. From teas to large fallen tree
trunks.
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Don't get me wrong. Teas can be very very good by adding certain essential
elements. In the same sentence composted wood chips has its benefits as
well. Using just composted wood chips for trees is not best. Some
composted leaves and needles plus wood chips composted. A nurse log here
and there. Then a tea. When you say tea are you talking about biodynamic
preparations?

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"Tad" wrote in message

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On Dec 22, 1:55 pm, CORVIDSTATION61

wrote:
Hi,
Just a quick one.
I know how to increase the soils PH. But what do i add to bring it
down.
Thanks Mark


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CORVIDSTATION61


Why not add biology and let nature fix the pH for you? I would use
compost tea personally before adding a bunch of other chemicals or
minerals to your soil. What was the pH again and what do you want it
to be? Why is it too high in the first place?


Please explain to me how Actively Aerated Compost Tea removes
cellulose from the environment.

[By adding composted wood chips and leaves as mulch, lets say, for trees,
you are providing a carbon based cellulose (food) for the soil. By not
applying composted wood chips and leaves you are not applying cellulose.]

This is not the case at all. In
addition, the purpose of these teas is NOT to provide "certian
essential elements."

[If you are not providing essential elements, while removing fallen leaves
and wood when they fall, where are those elements going to come from?]

The purpose is to put additional biology into
the soil.

[To put "additional biology" into the soil. What does that mean?]

Nature will correct imbalances given time and the proper
beneficial biology.

[Are you claiming nature is balanced? Balance is the equalization of
opposing forces. All is still. No movement. Stop. Death. When any system
in nature becomes balanced, it dies and gives up its energy. In a sense
nature moves towards balance. Many built in processes resist balance.]


Compost is another option, it is just more
expensive and time consuming. The key is to fix the problem itself,
not to just mask the symptoms.

Please explain the chemistry behind this treatment?


Oy gewalt, John. Cellulose is a form of glucose (6 CO2(gas) + 12
H2O(liquid) + photons (sun light) -- C6H12O6 (aqueous) + 6 O2(gas) + 6
H2O(liquid)) that needs termite bacteria or fungi to break it back down
into simple glucose that returns to the soil community as amino acids or
simple sugars. When you add mulch to a garden, the mulch doesn't
penetrate the soil but its' break down products do, to feed the flora
and fauna of the soil. Compost tea does the same thing and adds more
micro critters at the same time. Compost will break down and its'
chemical components with percolate through the soil to feed the
micro-critters. Having a constant population of living and dying
microorganisms provides the plants with the nitrogen and other fudge
factors that they need to produce the phyto nurients that make the
plants, and as the case may be, consumers of the plants, healthy.

Please respond, if you have any more questions.
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