"JOHN BLACK" wrote in message
this is s serious post im after some cuttings as i dont care wot they r so
wots on offer out there is my interest like do i have to have a certian
variety in mind that i dont right now

OK, now we'll take you seriously but what sort of climate do you live in?
Posters here range from hot tropical climes to very cold frosty winter
climes and everything in between.