"Terryc" wrote in message

Shrug, the last lot of cucumbers are the only curcurbit that has ever
managed to self fertilise.

Found out yesterday that you need two plants and must cross pollinate.
sigh, if that doesn't work, then they are definitely coming out.

If you can find someone else who has some of the same plants then use a
camel ahir paintbrush to shove in all their flowers then bring it home in a
plastic bag and go round having sex with your own plants. I did this last
year when I was trying to get my rockmelons to set fruit and I thought we
had too few bees. Dunno if my sex with the rockmelons or the bees
eventually did the job but I did end up with a few rockies.