"Stuart Noble" wrote in message
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Pat Gardiner wrote:
"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 21/1/08 15:56, in article ,
"Pat
Gardiner" wrote:

"Pat Gardiner" wrote in message
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After nearly ten years, I'm planting the last wall in the walled
garden.

You can see the garden on
http://www.go-self-sufficient.com/photowalledg.htm

You can see the north wall at the far right, the inner side has the
peaches apricots, and sweet cherries.

The outer north facing surface has been cleared of vegetation and I
have
planted three damsons (that I know do well on a north wall) and I have
two
more spaces.

My problem is that makes five different damsons and two pairs Morellos
and
Nabelas already.

It there another sharp cherry that would do OK on this wall? Is there
any
other fruit that might thrive? I'm stumpted.

Thanks
Pat Gardiner
I thought you would like to know that after much discussion a Japanese
Quince has won.

Japanese quince is or C. speciosa of which there are
many named varieties. The best thing might be to Google and see once
closest in colour to what you want or better yet, go some nurseries now
as
they're flowering.
Japanese quince is NOT Cydonia which is the 'true' quince with very
large
fruits, making eventually a large tree. It's a beautiful tree but it is
quite rarely seen nowadays whereas Japanese quince or Chaenomeles are
seen
all over the place. If you Google image search on both you'll see the
differences.

Yes, well done, that is the one, see reply above as well - thank you.



To my mind the chaenomeles japonica fruit is inedible, even after a bout
in the pressure cooker and equal amounts of sugar. Every year I collect
the fruit with good intentions, and every year I end up dumping it.
Mine thrives on a west facing, but quite shady, fence

Yes, it is off-putting, but it will make a reasonable jam

....and as Sacha says it will make a genuinely fabulous jelly.

We have become accustomed to receiving perfect fruit, vegetables and meat,
well presented AND restricted to items that sell in bulk to the British.

It is not just the beggars that are awkward to grow, pick and pack that are
excluded from the shops, but also those where the time necessary to process
them has driven them from the diet.

With eating your own animals and much fruit and veg, you have to delve back
into history to handle the awkward ones e.g. stoning plums, cooking the
tougher cuts of meat, relieving the boredom of endless leeks in winter.

My experience of struggling has generally been favourable, Mrs Pat's hot,
flushed and fed up is "I can see why nobody wants that anymore!"

I love quince jelly...she...well!

It is entirely her own fault. She banns me from the kitchen for being
"dirty" and refuses all offers of help.

Anyway, I won the "chaenomeles japonica" battle mostly because they are
pretty.

Thank you all, your help has been appreciated. If anyone thinks I may be
able to help them any time always feel free to email and I will pop up to
order

I'm not a regular visitor. My battle with the government over animal health
and the source of much MRSA takes up too much time and is too important to
take second place.


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Regards
Pat Gardiner
www.go-self-sufficient.com