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"Rod Speed" wrote:

Nate Nagel wrote
Don Klipstein wrote
CJT wrote
Shawn Hirn wrote
Doobie Keebler wrote
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John McCain .. wants to remain in iraq for 20 years...

This is why McCain is not electable:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf7HYoh9YMM&NR=1

"100 Years In Iraq" is not a good campaign slogan for 2008.
Nobody wants their grandkids to still be fighting this war.

Thats arguable. Not too many care about the US troops still in Germany and
Japan etc.

Rudy's toast, Huckabee is a religious nut, Mitt is a douchebag,
so that leaves St. John of McCain and his Holy War.

There are no good choices on the GOP ticket: get ready for Hillary/
Obama

I agree. McCain will get the Republican nomination, but he ****es
off a lot of conservatives, and he won't be able to rely on the
religious wing-nut base, which means a lot of Republicans will
either sit out this election or vote third party. I know know who
will win the Democratic nomination, but whomever it turns out to
be will surely be our next president.

... and a very good thing that will be, too. Bush and his clan have
wrought enough destruction it'll take two terms of a Democrat just
to get things back close to normal.

I doubt anyone who is now or ever was a front-runner for the current
presidential election is going to win the job by
honestly promising to fix what is now broken.

Because most dont agree on what is allegedly 'broken'

And very few candidates care about what YOU personally claim is 'broken'

I see winning the job by either promising to keep most broken things
broken or by being expected to break promises to
fix what is broken.

More fool you.

I sorely wish that American voters would change this state!

Taint gunna happen.

A good start would be admitting that there's more wrong than a couple
minor issues and that there is stuff that's broken that needs fixed...

But again, there will never be general agreement on what is 'broken'

It's like there's this 400 lb. gorilla in the room and both parties are
ignoring it... debt, war, recession, etc.
etc. etc...

No they arent ignoring it. They realise that the fed has avoided full
depression
for getting on for 70 years now fine and that it will do this time too.

And they are both in agreement about how best to minimise a recession too.

No one cares much about the debt except a few rabid loons.

No one can think of any effective way of ending the fiasco in Iraq,
and it looks like the current approach is becoming relatively effective.

Cut and run worked fine in Nam. Hung out to dry some folks who allied
themselves with us, for whatever reason (not always good ones). Cut and
run and, at least, muzzle that mad dog Israel. Ain't gonna be no peace,
as long as Israel keeps killing Palestinians and stealing their land and
water.
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Billy

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