"Billy" wrote in message
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"J. Clarke" wrote:

len gardener wrote:
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 14:41:57 -0400, "J. Clarke"
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How do you make this system work for Los Angeles or Mexico City or
Bombay? If the largest city you've seen is Sydney you don't really
understand the problem.

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maybe john just maybe it is you who have no understanding of "the
problem"??

once you take the liberty to pidgeon hole what is current then you
take away any thinking outside the square.

all tall buildings have rooves?

there are balconies?

most cities have large parklands?

melbourne is noted for it's culturaly diversified gardens shared by
occupants who live in medium to high rise tennaments.

and back in the 40's and 50's over here what produce the market
farmers had left they took into the general market situated in the
city proper where all could access it by various public transport,
now
the markets are so situated it is a hectic drive to even attempt to
get there.

and people lived in suburbs and business was in the city.

and in your scenerio or the current scenerio food is going to become
very very expensive to buy i the cities, and much can happen to stop
the harvest or the harvest being distributed, you may be affluent
enough right now? but very many aren't and everyone could be in
their
shoes at any time.

in the US of A some of the so called fresh food can be in transit
for
up to 2 weeks from what i have read at various times?

i never said it was going to be easy, but when do we start? when it
is
way too late maybe?

Demonstrate that you can feed half the population of Australia on 150
square miles of land.

There is no "my scenario". We feed the populations of those cities
now. The methods used may offend your sensibilities but they work.
You are the one proposing pie in the sky without running the numbers
and showing that they can work.


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No one ever said that you would make money with the "Cuban Solution".
you'd just get fed. If you want capitalism, you'll need to go elsewhere.

Roberto Perez, Cuban permaculturalist, recently visited NZ and Aus. He
recounted an event from the Cuban 'special period' of a neighbourhood going
to work with picks and axes on a car park in order to create a rudimentary
garden. The concrete was split and pulled up and rough gardens created. The
neighbourhood had precious few skills of farming, that came later. They
found a piece of idle land and set about growing on it. That was extreme
however, those people faced hunger or grow their own food. I guess hunger
gives you some motivation eh. If the ground is used for something now, not
to mean in a period of food shortage it won't quickly be converted. I have 5
raised beds in my 1/4 acre back yard, a small polytunnel & a good area of
grass. My front lawn is in lawn as well. The neighbours on one side have a
landscaped garden with rockeries. neighbours on the optherside have a
cobbled back yard. If we had a food shortage I guess the rockeries & cobbled
back yard would be secondary to growing some veges or having chickens.

rob