In article , Diogenes wrote:

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:19:20 -0700, Billy
wrote:

[...]
The Murder of Rachel Corrie
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1248.shtml

You really bought into that propaganda from the Palestinian playbook?
How sad. Truly, a lie is halfway around the world before the truth
can get out of bed. Done any real research?

He's a rabid antisemite who believes Israel has no right to exist, all
wars are caused by Jews, and Hamas training children as suicide bombers is
"resistance" but otherwise good parenting. Of course he denies that it's
antisemitic to want Israel not to exist and continuously pretend only Jews
are evil, but the REAL surprise is that he has SUPPORTERS for this kind of
thinking!!!

A scant week ago he began assaulting a man over a single word he didn't
like, but had confused Sherman and Sherwin and was assaultive not only for
a bad reason, but to the wrong guy. And his troll buddies agreed he was
right! So I drew his fire as an excuse to post the truth, and he got the
same unstable chums to agree with his stances. The majority good folks
duck for cover or just leave, and who can blame 'em.

This newsgroup used to have hundreds of regular posters with a fine array
of personalities from sweetie-pie to ascerbic and 99.9% of it all about
gardening & many very knowledgeable eager to assist one another. It now
has a handful of trolls whose special topics including over & over again
their antisemitic belief that Israel should be destroyed. Garden talkers
who used to dominate this newsgroup have gone away to facilitated groups.

-paghat the ratyid

[repost on Rachel Corrie, falsified saint]

I can certainly understand someone taking issue with anyone unthinkingly
worshipful of Rachel Corrie. Since she lived near me before she started
burning American flags in Gaza while chanting anti-Israel and
anti-American slogans, she gets quite a lot of discussion around here.

I like the discussion that speaks of Rachel Thaler, killed by Palestinians
at age 16 while eating pizza in a shopping mall; or Rachel Levy, killed
by Palestinians at age 17 while shopping in a grocery store; Rachel Levi
killed by Palestinians while waiting for a bus; Rachel Gavish killed by
Palestinians in her home with her entire family during Passover; or
Rachel Shabo mlurdered by Palestinians in her home with her three young
sons.

The list of dead Rachels is quite long. But all these Rachels were Jews,
unlike Rachel Corrie, so they're of no concern to the types for whom the
only unfortunate possible Rachel death is when the given Rachel ain't an
effing Jew.

Even nutters shouldn't have to die young, but to blame Jews for her bad
choices to serve admitted, proud, avowed terrorists is certainly a
perspective worthy of criticism. Disliking a defender of Hamas whose
stated goal is the complete eradication of Israel is only reasonable.
Dislike someone who repeatedly screamed her hatred for her own country of
birth is hardly the basis for a saintly reputation, and might justify even
moderately patriotic people who love their country to suspect a Monkey in
the works.

In the purely antisemitic Cult of Corrie it's important to portray her,
absolutely falsely, as a peaceful protestor helping the downtrodden. They
like to reproduce her school portrait at their Israel Must Die rallies,
but here's the photo of Rachel Corrie screaming hate slogans at a Hamas
rally, face twisted into a mask of hate as she screams & screams & screams
accusations against America and Israel that would've put her in like flint
even with the Taliban:
http://www.weirdwildrealm.com/images...with-Hamas.jpg

She went to Rafa and Gaza with a group that was SUPPOSED to be politically
neutral, was SUPPOSED to serve as human shields for Israeli settlers AND
for Palestinians, without judging whether it was worse to train children
as suicide bombers or worse to build homes for Jews on land that everyone
reasonable agrees is the new Palestine, borders all the more recognizable
due to the tragic fences and walls. But when Corrie got there, she decided
Israel alone was evil and so took up the terrorist call & cry.

Ninety gun-running tunnels were destroyed by Israel's rush into that area
where she stands screaming her hatred of America & Israel. Corrie and her
friends knew this if they weren't deaf, dumb, and blind. They bragged
about who they stayed with, and this included houses where terrorists
were coming and going with weapons through the basement tunnels.

So these British and American naifs stood arm in arm with terrorists &
promultated their belief that firing rockets everyday into Israeli cities
& suicide-bombing grocery stores and pizzarias merits no military
response, because all Jew activity is evil, and all Palestinian activity
is holy.

It's probable Corrie like her friends helped transport weapons and
ammunition, since it would've been impolite to accept these people's food
during a hungry time, sit with their children, shout their hate-slogans
in heated comraderie, & yet refuse the heavy lifting.

Disagree with Hamas, get shot or carted away to oblivion. Disagree with
Israel, get international attention. It's always easiest to attack
America and Israel exclusively, while ignoring all injustices from the
truly scary. And so Corrie derides her own country while standing amidst
terrorists who know they've got one helluva political chip in play, but
would've exterminated her instantly if she'd been evenhanded or truthful.

Until her suicidal jump she was not significant enough to be much quoted
or published, so screaming terrorist slogans with Hamas is as close as we
can get to her personal voice. In the little interview footage from her
time as an pro-Hamas activist, she for poliltical advantage refuses to
acknowledge that Hamas was her host, then speaks of those hosts as just
wanting to have "fun with their children," and likens the removal of
buildings used by Hamas snipers to shoot Jews or to cover entrances to
gun tunnels as Jews "destroying of ordinary citizens'" ability to make a
living, and at length alleges that Jews "do not care about people." She
has a sweet face & an even manner (when not screaming slogans under a
burning American flag) but her words are infused with inflammatory hate.

I've a theory how her obviouisly undeserved lionization came about. 220
Moslems died during the second Intifada in the period of Corrie's activism
in favor of Hamas. By comparison only one American Christian died. Some
few of the dead Moslems were genuinely innocent, and even though they
were not intentionally targetted as Hamas intentionally targets civillian
Jews, nevertheless it was a great tragedy, and some of those dead Moslems
must've been decent people worthy of world-wide mourning & regret. Didn't
happen. Instead Europe & America picked Corrie out of the grave to
re-animate as a fraud heroine, despite 220 other choices for the season.

It's because the world doesn't care all THAT much about Palestinians
anymore than they care about a bunch of ****ing Yids killed eating pizza
in Tel Aviv by young suicide bombers. Get yourself an American Christian
and never mind she was dumb as fudge, at least she wasn't a sandmonkey or
a hymie yid, so she gets lifted up to sainthood and no one else even
footnoted. Good people SHOULD be peevish about that, as some correctly
a

"Rachel Corrie chose to side with a society that breeds some of the
cruelest murderers of innocent people in the world. Rachel Corrie gave
her life trying to protect people whose declared aim is to annihilate
another country. In the name of saving children's lives, Rachel Corrie
chose to defend a society that teaches its young children to blow
themselves up and which deliberately targets children for death. And
Rachel Corrie went to America's enemies to burn her country's flag.
"We are told repeatedly that Rachel was idealistic as if that
matters. Virtually every person who commits great evil, the Nazi, the
communist, the Islamic terrorist is idealistic. Idealism is morally
neutral. It is good only when directed to good ends. But in young people,
idealism is at least as likely to lead to bad as to good because few
young people are wise and idealism without wisdom is very dangerous.
"The world is filled with evil, and young idealists like Rachel Corrie
don't like it. Which is lovely. But they don't confront real evil because
they know they will get hurt. That's one reason there are no "peace
activists" or "human shields" confronting Islamic terror, North Korean
totalitarianism, or Chinese Communist despotism. They focus their
animosity at the countries that confront these evils, the United States
and Israel." [Dennis Prager, author of Why The Jews?: The Reason for
Antisemitism]

Anyway, I hope you'll dig deeper, both in your misplaced admiration for a
phony martyr, & for your conviction that you've found antichrstian
sentiment from Sherman. If he's like that, you should quote that vile
attitude where it really shows, not where it has to be highly intepretted
from the non-evidence of a single word directed at a spammer.
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