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Old 06-05-2008, 02:52 PM posted to rec.ponds.moderated
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Default Fish-proof bottom drain cover?

The water comes in about 1/3 of the way up and continues to the top where it
exits near the center of the top of the vortex. The cone bottom catches the
debris and it is then piped to drain with a valve. Takes a couple of
minutes to have clear water discharging. I do this about every day to keep
the solids out of the system.

As for keeping the fish from making the trip, some formn of hardware cloth
or matala is needed. In my skimmers, I use shower drains to block the
piping form having unwanted riders down the plumbing. The first week that I
had the 4000 gallon pond, I had to take plumbing apart twice to get frogs
out of the piping, amputating on hind leg in the process.

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"~ jan" wrote in message
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On Sun, 4 May 2008 11:04:16 EDT, "RichToyBox"
wrote:

I have my matala laying flat as a block for the exit pipe of the vortex.
This serves two purposes. The first being to keep the fines from finding
their way to the filters. The second to keep frogs from taking the ride
to
the pump impellors. Putting the matala in vertically would prevent the
water from being able to swirl, and would impede the settlement of the
solids. Some of the people that had the vortex filters when I got mine
used
brushes in the vortex to catch a lot of the material that was too light to
settle.

A better option might be to split the water flow, with half coming from
the
bottom drain to the vortex and half coming from a skimmer or mid water
return around the vortex. This would bring the bottom drain into the
correct flow range. 4" gravity feed pipe will have about a 1" draw down
at
3500 gallons.


Since Dave wants it to catch fish, and the fish go down the bottom drain,
that might work.... depending on his plumbing.

I've only seen my sister's vortex filters once. The water comes in the top
and goes out somewhere close to the bottom, is that right? I believe it
has
a coned bottom where the solids collect and where there is a pipe to draw
them out as needed? Or is it just the opposite, comes in at the bottom,
up
thru the media and then out the top? ~ jan
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