"Billy" wrote in message
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In article , Charlie wrote:
On Sat, 10 May 2008 21:52:26 -0500, "Katey Didd"
wrote:
Ironite.........
Uh oh...ironite. Of course, if you are using Sevin, Ironite is likely
of no concern to you.
Care
Charlie
What Charlie is trying to say in his own inimitable way is the presence
of heavy metals in Ironite(R) has resulted in its banning in Canada and
lawsuits in the United States due to the potential release of heavy
metals, most notably arsenic and lead.
http://www.epa.gov/nrmrl/lrpcd/wm/projects/135367.htm
and with respect to Sevin
one Canadian environmental organization in a letter addressed to local
citizens cites some of the 'documented' effects of carbaryl.
1. It causes birth defects in mammals, especially dogs.
2. It worsens the condition of people with hypertension and people on
anti-depressant drugs.
3. It impairs the function of the pituitary gland, the thyroid gland,
and the reproductive system.
4. It causes hyperactivity and learning disabilities in mammals.
5. It could increase the chance of heart attack in people with weak
hearts.
6. The main break-down product, nitrosocarbaryl, which is easily
created in the human gut, is a potent cancer-causing agent.
7. It causes irreversible chromosomal damage to human DNA (the genes
in our cells).
http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/facts-sl...bre-sevin.html
OMG!!!!!!!!! No one said anything to me about that. I was told it was one
of the safest products to use. I'll throw the damn stuff out tomorrow.
At the veeeery least, Sevin is "extremely toxic" to bees. Spray or dust
with Sevin and you'll be doing the pollination of your squash yourself
or you won't have squash. Most of us in the gardening groups that ingest
the plants we grow, are organic gardeners because, in part, we don't
want to poison ourselves, or the environment. These two products seem
imminently capable of doing both.
Rest assured that you are not the first to propose them products and
most assuredly, you won't be the last.
Keep reading the posts here in rec.gardens and rec.gardens.edible, and
check out some books from the library, you'll get the hang of it.
Some titles that I would recommend:
Any book by
Rodale
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw...ipbooks&field-
keywords=Rodale&x=0&y=0
I have their gardening book from years ago. I think it's time I read it
again. But as I recall some of the organic methods we tried back in the
1960s did not work. I do recall companion planting for insect control was a
waste of time. We also purchased an organic insecticide that was useless.
How to Grow More Vegetables and Fruits
by John Jeavons
http://www.amazon.com/How-Grow-More-...80087965/ref=s
r_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210543192&sr=1-1
The Vegetable Gardener's Bible by Edward C. Smith
http://www.amazon.com/Vegetable-Gard...Gardening/dp/1
580172121/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210543343&sr=1-1
The above are how-to books.
The book below explains healthy (organic) soil.
Teaming with Microbes by by Jeff Lowenfels &, Wayne Lewis
http://www.amazon.com/Teaming-Microb.../dp/0881927775
/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210542894&sr= 1-1
The book below tells us why we are organic.
The Omnivore's Dilemma: A Natural History of Four Meals
by Michael Pollan
http://www.amazon.com/Omnivores-Dile...ls/dp/01430385
83/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210543426&sr=1-1
This is by no means a definitive list, and you will see other
recommendations in the news groups, but these books are a good place to
begin understanding your new hobby.
Thank you Billy. We've done some serious gardening, canning and freezing in
the past. We're kind of getting back into it now that we're both retired.
--
Billy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related