On Jun 9, 11:36 am, Jangchub wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 05:07:42 -0700 (PDT), Chris

wrote:
Well, not as far as anything you mention above.

By a "different view" I mean I do not see humans as more important
life forms than rabbits. I see all life as equal. I try to view all

And I limited my comment to the specific things you mentioned in that
post. We seem to have those ideas in common.

humans, friend-enemy-stranger as all the same, as well. I didn't say
it is easy, but I do. It's my belief system. I don't say you should
adopt it, but I commented on something very strong you said regarding
killing rabbits. I'm way in the other direction. I've purchased
feeder fish and crickets and other live animals fed to snakes, etc,
and freed them.

OK, put that way, sure. You're wrong and inconsiderate and rude and a
host of other pejorative adjectives, but sure, you have the right, I
guess. And no, Bush isn't killing for free speech. He's killing for a
lot of reasons, like oil, and his tiny penis, and the fact he hasn't
had a drink in 20 years- but not freedom.

I say NO penis or balls, and do you honestly believe he stopped
drinking 20 years ago? I said "freedom" facetiously.

Well, the shrinks say he has the symptoms of what's called a "dry
drunk", mainly an extremely rigid worldview that's incapable of
accepting criticism, or of bending in any direction. Maybe not 20
years, but I doubt he's drinking now. As to penis and balls, you may
very well be correct.



I have seen overpopulated areas where animals suffer. One such place
is the pen where they hold cattle before they kill them.

You have, then, no idea what horrific habitat degradation is like. Try
the photo he

http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/snow-goose-genetics.php

It's not just the particular species that suffers; it's whole
ecosystems.

I won't look at the photo. I don't need to. I am well aware of the
ravaging overpopulation is capable of. This is why I strongly believe
in zero population growth. I've been criticized for saying that, but
I stand by my opinion anyway.

I'd be the last to criticize you for ZPG.


I don't own
my property. I'm a steward of my property. Animals are life forms. I
plant extra for them.

Good for you. But your ethics are not universal, there's no reason for
them to be universal, and insulting someone who doesn't share them is
inappropriate, to say the least.

Chris

I don't see my ethics as universal. If I did we wouldn't be having
this discussion.

I didn't see where you apologized to Nelly; I'm sorry if I was rude.

Chris