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Default #9 Complimentarity between plants and animals; new book: Chemistry:Complementarity of nitrogen between plants and animals


Bob wrote:




I need some picture of the N
atom in a plant
protein versus a animal protein. Is the N atom/s in plant protein any
different from the
N atom in animal proteins?


no, of course not.


I meant whether the N bonding in plants was surrounded by different
atoms than
that found in animals. For example, the N in plants maybe bonded to H
whereas
in animals to O. That is why a picture is helpful.



You say that about 10 of the 20 amino acids are essential in humans.
That is about
half. So is it somewhat true that the other 10 are essential in
plants, but not humans?
If the universe of amino acids is 20, then is there a even split of 10
essentials for plants
whereas the other 10 are essential to animals?


I didn�t say animals, I said humans.

Your point is not even logical.


All my points are highly logical, once you understand them.
I start with an irrefutable logic that plants use carbon dioxide and
emit
oxygen and vice versa for animals. This is Complimentarity in biology.
So, I want to see whether there are more Complimentarities.

Let's see, using our elementary understanding of plants, wouldn't we
expect that none of the amino acids are essential for them? I don't
know for sure; would be interesting to check that.


It is rare for biology to have any universals, so there probably are
alot of exceptions
to your above. One could say, and I have said it before on the
Internet that biology
is physics in motion and thus there are exceptions to every law of
biology.




Are there any catalysts involved with the Nitrogen uptake in plants
and animals?
If so, are they different for plants versus animals?



They vary all over. There are all sorts of uptake systems, and
obviously there is some correlation with diet. I hope you aren�t
hoping to find some "principle" here.

bob


Let me change that question. Can anyone think of a catalyst in animals
that is
complimentary to a catalyst in plants. Do plants have a catalyst that
animals use
and alter and for which plants later use. I kind of suspect
molybdenum. But then again
I just remembered that iron in the oceans is rare except in the bodies
of animals in the
ocean. So the plants in the ocean rely on animal blood for iron. But
whether iron is a
catalyst in plants is unknown and whether a catalyst in animals
unknown. This maybe
what is called a "cycle" and not a catalyst.

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