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Old 14-06-2008, 07:11 AM posted to rec.gardens.edible
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Default Simple questions about fertilizers

In article ,
Korleone wrote:

'Billy[_4_ Wrote:
;798051']In article ,
Korleone
wrote:
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The question wasn't specific to non-organic methods. It was about
plant
behaviour generally. If there was only one answer, you didn't have
it.


Besides, I've figured it out. Plants are gluttons. They will eat
all
they can. They can't pick and choose, otherwise there would be no
such
thing as nute burn. Adjusting NPK ratios and/or ppm is necessary for
a
nutrient deficiency. Pretty obvious really, but I forgot about
overdosing.

Fertilizing can be a difficult thing. You want to give your plants
what they need in optimal doses but not too much of a good thing.
There's no exact formula to it, but you should be aware of rough
guidelines. Listening to the plants is one thing, but knowing how to
push your plants to the top of their potential without pushing them
over a cliff is another.

The same goes for raising children I suppose. Except you can't eat
them(legally).-

Spunky little ignoramus ain't you?;o)

Learned yourself up on macro-nutrients, eh?, and now you know farming
up
to 1930. I hope you do your farming hydroponically and leave the soil
alone. Organic gardening means, "take care of the soil, and the soil
will take care of your plants". But you already knew that, humm?

Well here is the tip of an iceberg for you:
"Harsh chemicals can scorch young leaves, and nitrogen fertilizers
render lettuces more vulnerable to insects. It seems the bugs are
attracted to the free nitrogen in their leaves, and because of the more

rapid growth of chemically nourished plants, insects find their leaves

easier to pierce." - Omnivore's Dilemma, pg. 165.

Your reading list:

Teaming with Microbes: A Gardener's Guide to the Soil Food Web
Jeff Lowenfels and Wayne Lewis
http://tinyurl.com/42tp2m
/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1206815176&sr= 1-1

The Omnivore's Dilemma: A Natural History of Four Meals by Michael
Pollan

http://tinyurl.com/3z76g2
83/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1206815576&sr=1-1

(Not a book) The Worst Mistake In The History Of The Human Race
http://tinyurl.com/4dgtly
..pdf

Keep us appraised of your success ;o)
--

Billy
Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars
http://tinyurl.com/4ffszx
http://tinyurl.com/4anv4s



I'll repeat myself, juuust so we're clear he THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY
NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ARGUMENT FOR OR AGAINST ORGANIC METHODS.

I didn't mention once that I was interested in fertilizers that weren't
of animal or plant origin. In fact, my question has nothing to do with
fertilizers. I asked a simple question on how plants work.

I understand your pedestal must be very comfy, you clearly know
everything there is to know about horticulture and you were born with
this knowledge and God forbid anyone should know any less.

Organic gardening means, "take care of the soil, and the soil
will take care of your plants"


btw, ... THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ARGUMENT FOR OR
AGAINST ORGANIC METHODS.

Just wanted to pop into a nice gardening forum, ask some friendly and
simple questions. Friendly. Simple. Yes?

I am actually grateful for the reading list however.

I recommend the following:
http://tinyurl.com/3p9kha

And not available on Amazon, but I recommend you look out for these:
Growing the Dogmatic Way by Yura Duszbahg, and
The Real Wiccan's Guide to Dryhumping Your Opinion Into Every
Conversation.

Please don't reply. I really can't be bothered.
And if you do reply, it's sort of, in a way, basically the same as
admitting to child abuse. If you think about it.


This is for the group, not the prima donna who apparently has found time
to take a psychology class. Psychology classes are usually populated
by people who have questions about themselves as sociology classes
are populated by people who have questions about other people.

Naked in his/her ignorance s/he attempts to deflect attention by
misdirection, and then vaunting his/her ignorance, by citing two
nonexistent books. The "Heart of a Lion" (what do you think
psychology students?) is reduced to the timidity of a mouse.
I think we do an excellent job answering honest questions about
gardening. We answer honestly from our hearts, even if we don't
have citations. Why someone would try to abuse our service by
posing as competent, and then framing ill defined questions is
beyond me, even if they are an ignoramus.
--

Billy
Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related